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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar
    I hadnīt ignored the majority of your posts.You are the ones that keeps saying that.
    But thatīs not the thruth.I answered to almost all of them
    If you think I ignored then post again the ones you think I ignored(donīt ask me to go see them because I do and found nothing I hadnīt replied).

    And I NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER said my theories were thruth because you canīt proof them wrong.I NEVER SAID that.If I said that it was in a explicit way of course.
    You were the ones who ignore my posts-How many times do I have to say to you that my theories were not at random but I thought toooo much before I post them?
    Your replies here show that you had been ignored my posts(more than I ignore yours).
    Nvm, since you said you will let the whole thing rest now in the other thread or that only apply to that thread only......?

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    And that story was very funny Unknowns.
    I am thinking of posting my stories in the Arts and writing forum since that is hardly any "writings" and just arts in that forum. But I wonder will it be pointless since all my stories are all based on your theories and people might not catch the joke if they didn't read this thread......

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    Unknowns,I said THE MAJORITY,NOT ALL.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar
    Unknowns,I said THE MAJORITY,NOT ALL.
    Just what in the world are you talking about? I thought you said you will let the matter rest but so it only apply in that thread and not the other topics?....god....

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    Yes,only that thread.But I suspect this one will go the same way.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar
    Yes,only that thread.But I suspect this one will go the same way.
    Then let it go ok? No point holding onto it.

    PS: And I never ignore your posts no matter how....nvm.
    Last edited by Christmas; 07-30-2005 at 07:27 PM.

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    Letīs just conclude it by saying that that soil is from Esthar/Mordred.I am sure.I think I donīt need to show you a screenshot.Thatīs easy to spot.And since this soil just appear on a single zone of the world it is accurate to say that Squall was at Esthar.And since we saw it becoming a flower field it seems that Squall was lost on time.And since Squall and Rinoa remains on the same place when it happens(Squall was even lying on the floor) we should conclude that Ah,Ah,Ah,Ah,Ah,Ah...... thought for yourself.This even applies if time compression is finishing here.None of the theories people post on here can deny what I am trying to show whether they are thruth or wrong.
    Definately people says that Squall was lost in time and was brought back by Rinoa.I also always believed this.Itīs just that people never noticed this was Esthar soil and never stop to think they remains on the same place.And Esthar itself symbolize Squallīs wilderness so just donīt come up with this argument.The soil is Esthar oneīs.Of course Squall was lost on time but it donīt change nothing.It just adds an interesting conclusion.A very interesting one.

    THE NEXT IS LESS IMPORTANT.

    If I were to bet I would bet that Squall was near Esthar Sorceress Memorial(due to personal reasons).But he just canīt see it due to the time compression cloud(or wall or whatever).He just was at the left of the Memorial(considering we are turned in the direction of the entrance).
    Or maybe over the mountain considering the respective Lunar Cry twist things a little.This would explain why it seems that Squall was on an inlet.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Future, Squall was stuck in a time-warp which was shifting after his memories, thoughts and emotions. This much is clear from the twisted images of Rinoa, and the transformation of the desert into a tiny rock.

    Now, this time-warp cannot be said to contain ONLY features from the real world. In other words, although the soil may look similar to the soil of Esthar, this does not mean it is the same soil, simply because the time-warp isn't the real world.

    HOWEVER, even if we assume that the time-warp contains only properties of the real world, and that the soil IS the soil of Esthar, you still cannot say that after time compression ends(or more correctly, when Rinoa embraces Squall and they both escape the time-warp), they are still in Esthar. Why not? Because Squall wasn't stuck anywhere in the real world. He was stuck in a timewarp existing beyond the real world, which means that once it's over, he could end up anywhere on earth. Furthermore, he escapes the timewarp in the midst of a flowerfield. You argue that the only place that has soil like the soil in the time-warp is Esthar, and that the time-warp therefore is a twisted Esthar based on Squalls thoughts. Using the exact same logic, we find that the only place where we see a flowerfield like in the ending is by Edeas Orphanage, so by your own logic, he wakes up by Edeas Orphanage, and NOT in Esthar.

    To push the point further, arguing that the flower field in the ending is the same place as the rocky plains of Esthar is like arguing that rocky soil = flower field. Is that the 'interesting conclusion' you speak of? It certainly is very interesting....

    Moving on, why do you say that Esthar symbolises Squalls 'wilderness'? Please provide an argument to back this up, or it will be dismissed.

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    wait wait.... i was thinkin bout the whole time warp thing and... it came to me, maybe the time warp tore squall and rinoa apart in time, but they were still in the same place. like, as rinoa was at the flower field near edeas house in the present, squall was in the same field except it was in the way future or way past, when there were no flowers at that spot. just an idea, not a big deal at all lol, jus wonderin if it could be a possibility. geez we're all nerrddsss xD

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    You might think of it like that, but personally, I just think of the time-warp as not having a distinct location in space or time at all-

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    wait wait.... i was thinkin bout the whole time warp thing and... it came to me, maybe the time warp tore squall and rinoa apart in time, but they were still in the same place. like, as rinoa was at the flower field near edeas house in the present, squall was in the same field except it was in the way future or way past, when there were no flowers at that spot. just an idea, not a big deal at all lol, jus wonderin if it could be a possibility. geez we're all nerrddsss xD
    Eureka.There you had,Sir Bahamut.

    This is what I think:
    Squall was lost on time.He was at an specific time.
    But we see time compression covering all the area except an especific area in which time was flowing normally.And there were another area in which Rinoa was.This area is on another time.Rinoa then pass trough the wall traveling to Squallīs time.
    This is like when Squall travels to Ultiīs time.He was on his time and then goes to Ultiīs time through Time Compression.
    Time Compression ends when Rinoa hugs Squall taking them to the "present".Thatīs it.

    Esthar symbolyzes Squall because he is introverted and keep silent about his feelings.He has many sad thoughts inside his head,like how Ellone had to leave the orphanage making him alone and all that.Itīs difficult for one person to penetrate his little world.However Rinoa found a way in.Doesnīt this last line sound familiar to you?
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar

    Eureka.There you had,Sir Bahamut.

    This is what I think:
    Squall was lost on time.He was at an specific time.
    But we see time compression covering all the area except an especific area in which time was flowing normally.And there were another area in which Rinoa was.This area is on another time.Rinoa then pass trough the wall traveling to Squallīs time.
    This is like when Squall travels to Ultiīs time.He was on his time and then goes to Ultiīs time through Time Compression.
    Time Compression ends when Rinoa hugs Squall taking them to the "present".Thatīs it.
    Alright dude, You said there is no time compression going on during Disc 4 and just time travelling. How are you going to end time compression without starting it. And if you said the "WOTC" ended during the game, then dun you think the characters will be warped back to their own time? And how do they end "WOTC" when "X" is still no where seen in action.

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    You know,here I am considering that the standard theories were right and I am showing a theory of mine using it.

    But whether the standard theories were right or not it donīt matter.We can reach the same conclusion anyway.

    This way they canīt say I am denying the game because I showed my theory based on what they think happens on the game.I am not making bluff because as I said it donīt matter wether the standard theories were right and wrong.The conclusion is the same.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    And what exactly is your conclusion?

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    The same as G SpOtZ
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar
    The same as G SpOtZ
    So that would mean that Squall was at the flower field, at another point in time, at time when it was barren and rocky.

    I always thought that went without saying, seen as how they're at Ultimecia's castle in her time, which is near the flower field.
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