Quote Originally Posted by fire_of_avalon
I didn't say you couldn't do it. I said discounting something as stupid because it's not what one believes in is just as bigoted as people accuse the religious right of being.

I never said you shouldn't judge someone's ethics, I said discounting them as idiocy is just as wrong as someone discounting homosexuality as morally abhorrent.
I believe that murder is wrong. If someone suggested to me an ethics in which murder was right, I would discount it immediately. If someone suggested to me an ethics in which homosexuality is evil, I would discount it immediately. Some things are obviously abhorrent to any moral standard that values life.


There's investigation and discussion about why someone behaves the way they do, which I think is a good thing. Any opinions drawn after that fact are valid, I believe. Saying that all religion is awful, bad, narrowminded, bigoted, evil, etc. etc. without any reason behind it except for what mainstream, highly "celebrated" figures tell you it's about is wrong.
So..."people are homosexual because they devil made them that way" is a valid point in a logical discussion?

Yes - basing your opinion on the media or "celebrated figures" is wrong. By that logic, so is basing your opinion on any religion or "celebrated figures" of the church.

But you don't have to agree with me, I think a lot of you are just being meanies for no reason.
Probably. I haven't read most of the thread.