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    Default So, Karl Rove was responsible for leaking Valerie Plame's identity

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    NEW YORK Now that Time Inc. has turned over documents to federal court, presumably revealing who its reporter, Matt Cooper, identified as his source in the Valerie Plame/CIA case, speculation runs rampant on the name of that source, and what might happen to him or her. Tonight, on the syndicated McLaughlin Group political talk show, Lawrence O'Donnell, senior MSNBC political analyst, claimed to know that name--and it is, according to him, top White House mastermind Karl Rove.

    Here is the transcript of O'Donnell's remarks:

    "What we're going to go to now in the next stage, when Matt Cooper's e-mails, within Time Magazine, are handed over to the grand jury--the ultimate revelation, probably within the week of who his source is.

    "I know I'm going to get pulled into the grand jury for saying this but the source of...for Matt Cooper was Karl Rove, and that will be revealed in this document dump that Time magazine's going to do with the grand jury."

    Other panelists then joined in discussing whether, if true, this would suggest a perjury rap for Rove, if he told the grand jury he did not leak to Cooper.

    Besides his career at a TV journalist, O'Donnell has served as a producer and writer for the series "The West Wing."

    According to published reports, Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor in the case, has interviewed President Bush and Vice President Cheney and called Karl Rove, among others, to testify before the grand jury.

    "The breadth of Fitzgerald's inquiry has led to speculation that it has evolved into an investigation of a conspiracy to leak Plame's identity," the Chicago Tribune observed on Friday, "or of an attempt to cover up White House involvement in the leak."

    Cooper and New York Times reporter Judith Miller, held in contempt for refusing to name sources, tried Friday to stay out of jail by arguing for home detention instead after Time Inc. surrendered its reporter's notes to a prosecutor.

    Miller argued that it was pointless to imprison her because she will never talk. She submitted letters from soldiers and military officers with whom she was embedded during the war in Iraq attesting to that. (Miller's pre-war coverage of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction has drawn much criticism.)

    She asked the judge for "very restrictive home detention," if confined at all, including an electronic bracelet and excluding Internet access and cellular phones. As an alternative, she asked to be sent to the federal prison camp for women in Danbury, Conn.

    Meanwhile, on Capitol Hill, Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., said Friday that several unidentified Senate Republicans had placed a hold on a proposed resolution declaring support for Miller and Cooper.

    ``Cowards!'' Lautenberg said of the Republicans. ``Under the rules, they have a right to refuse to reveal who they are. Sound familiar?''

    Lautenberg's resolution is co-sponsored by Sens. Richard Lugar (R-Ind.) and Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.) It says no purpose is served by imprisoning Miller and Cooper and that the First Amendment guarantees freedom of the press.
    Minimally, this is a violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982, which carries a penalty of ten years in prison; it would also, most likely, constitute perjury, since he apparently stated before a grand jury that he was not responsible for the leak. Ideally, this will be turned into a case of treason, because the United States was at war when he leaked her identity, and his actions endangered the life of an undercover CIA agent working in the field, which is punishable by death according to the United States Code, and compromised our national security.

    Put the motherer in prison.
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    That'd be awesome, but if I know anything about anything, Karl will dodge
    it and nothing will happen to him. I hope to God I'm wrong though.

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    Many of our politicians have committed some crime or another, but they always seem to get away with it, possibly because our attention is focused on the crime in the lower class and we ignore "white collar crime" so to speak.

    It would be nice to see him imprisoned though.

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    First off: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Secondly:
    Ideally, this will be turned into a case of treason, because the United States was at war when he leaked her identity
    No, we weren't.

    Thirdly, it would highly amuse me if Rove was convicted, but since it would probably constitute a federal crime, Bush could just pardon him. But it would definitely be a blow to social conservatives.

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    I believe we were at war with Afghanistan when Plame's identity was leaked.

    And yeah, Bush could pardon him, but it's likely that doing so would cause an uproar, which would put a rather severe dent in his ability to get anything done. Of course, without Rove it's unlikely he'll be able to get anything done either, so who knows.
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