smoking ban

[Ravenmorghane]

Theres a myth that filters contain tiny slithers of glass that scratch the inside of your throat to get the nicotine to the blood faster therby speeding up the addiction process. I'm not sure if this is true tho

I somehow think that regular smoking with filters is millions of times more detrimental to health than occasional wafts of unfiltered smoke... if this is wrong then what the hell are vehicle fumes doing to us? should we ban them too?

also, there is a slight difference smoking without filters but I got used to rollups without a filter at one point, im now back to ordinary straits at the mo. for some reason i can smoke a rollup without a filter but can't smoke one with a roach in it. odd huh?

[Ravenmorghane]

btw shinangel im a dudette .. and i need a cigarette from all this talkin about them!

[omnitarian]

There's more to second-hand smoke than just... second-hand smoke. It doesn't need to be "omg cancer!" in order to effect the health of the people around them. What about the people who are asthmatic, or allergic to tobacco?

[Ravenmorghane]

whats an asthmatic person doing in a pub where they know theyr at risk?

[nik0tine]

There's more to second-hand smoke than just... second-hand smoke. It doesn't need to be "omg cancer!" in order to effect the health of the people around them. What about the people who are asthmatic, or allergic to tobacco?

It doesn't seem to have been a problem in the past. Are problems with asthmatics etc. going to start popping up suddenly, and without reason?

[Shin Gouken]

btw shinangel im a dudette .. and i need a cigarette from all this talkin about them!

lol sorry dudette *goes for a fag too*

[Ravenmorghane]

heres another point - i have to smoke outside cus my parents wont let me smoke in the house and its raining so I got pissed on. how fair is that, smokers being forced out into extreme weather to have a ciggie??? I dont force diabetics out to inject just cus I dont like the thought of needles
(disclaimer - i actually have no problems with needles its just a hypothetical situation)

[nik0tine]

Rain is not extreme weather, and it usually isn't "piss".

[Ravenmorghane]

Rain is not extreme weather, and it usually isn't "piss".

actually rain is composed of moisture evaporated from the ground, including urine although very very diluted. and it was just a figure of speech
Still its not nice to have to stand in the rain to smoke. and it is extremem where I am. It was raining pretty hard and i could have weakend my immune system and contracted a disease.
Now do i sound as melodramatic as the non-smokers? pardon the attidude.

[Shin Gouken]

heres another point - i have to smoke outside cus my parents wont let me smoke in the house and its raining so I got pissed on. how fair is that, smokers being forced out into extreme weather to have a ciggie??? I dont force diabetics out to inject just cus I dont like the thought of needles
(disclaimer - i actually have no problems with needles its just a hypothetical situation)

lol its the same with me. but i have a dry place to stand in my garden

[Ravenmorghane]

I dont its not fair.. i had to leave 1/3 of it cus i just couldnt stand being all wet for much longer and it started to rain harder .. what a waste . fags are far more expensiver in UK than anywhere else in the world!

[Shin Gouken]

I dont its not fair.. i had to leave 1/3 of it cus i just couldnt stand being all wet for much longer and it started to rain harder .. what a waste . fags are far more expensiver in UK than anywhere else in the world!

yeah i buy the cheapest ones their are. i bought some yesterday to find they had gone up by 10p.

[crazybayman]

this is discrimination against people who smoke. there should be bars for smokers and bars for non smokers. banning smoking altogether is a blatent act of discrimination

Discriminating against people who smoke?!? What about discriminating against people who don't smoke?!?! They can't go into a bar without inhaling smoke, which isn't healthy, and just isn't pleasant. Even cigarette ashes turn my stomach.

whats an asthmatic person doing in a pub where they know theyr at risk?

Its pretty bad if you can't go into a public place just because you have asthma or if you're allergic to smoke. They certainly have the right to go into a pub or a bar. However if they have an attack because of smokers in the area, I think the smokers would be held liable.

So if they can't enter into a public place because of people smoking, wouldn't this be discrimination against asthmatics?

I'm gonna stop arguing this point. The fact of the matter is, I'm happy, there's no more smoking allowed in any public places, in my province, be it bars, pubs, or restaurants. And the trend will continue, around the globe in years to come.

It'll actually induce people to quit smoking, especially when its a little inconvienient to go out into a blizzard to light up. Therefore, this will benefit everyone's health, both the smokers who quit because of the law, and the non-smokers.

[nik0tine]

Discriminating against people who smoke?!? What about discriminating against people who don't smoke?!?! They can't go into a bar without inhaling smoke, which isn't healthy, and just isn't pleasant. Even cigarette ashes turn my stomach.

Although I don't think it is "discrimination" by any means, I should say that it would be the government discriminating against smokers, which isn't permissable. It may be reprehensible for me to discriminate against you, but it should be permited. The government, however, is a different story.

[Perducci]

If people are worried about toxic fumes and all that, then maybe they should ban cars and factories and all that stuff, too?

And I agree with the people who said that smoking shouldn't be banned. Mainly because I smoke.