A very important subtle poll

[Future Esthar]

Cid don´t knows she was married.She was possessed at that time(the time Cid meets her).
After all she and Caraway are villains(Julia´s name changed to Edea when she gets possessed).So what´s the surprise?

[Christmas]

no, no, no, i am not surprised at all. I was EXPECTING it.
So, why Julia= Edea?
What do you based on to come up with such a theory?
Btw, this is a little infomation I managed to gather about Julia

Who Julia really is
name: Julia Heartilly
other: Julia Caraway
age: 22 (when she met Laguna)
height: about 166cm
bloodtype: unknown
origin: Deling City

[ occupation ]
Julia Heartilly was a pianist at a club in the lower level of Galbadia Hotel. She eventually pursued her true dream to become a singer. Julia's song "Eyes On Me" was based on an impressionable person she met at the bar, Laguna Loire.

[ family life ]
Laguna had to go off to war due to new orders and although she waited, Julia never got to see him again. Julia still had her debut and "Eyes On Me" becomes a hit. A Major in the Galbadian Army named Fury Caraway who had his eye on Julia for some time and probably knew who the song was about, comforts her. Their feelings eventually turned into true love and a few months later Fury Caraway asks to marry her. A year after their marriage, at the age of 23, Julia has a daughter named Rinoa.

[ death ]
Five years later at the age of 28, Julia dies in a car accident. Rinoa is left to be raised by a single military career parent, becoming somewhat an army brat. Fury Caraway over the years rises in rank to become a Colonel (English FF8 called him General).

[ love life ]
It seems Laguna Loire was Julia's first love and vice versa. Although their time together was short, the connection they had was so strong that it lived again through their children. This is what FF8 is about: Destiny.

Let just say Rinoa's age is the same as Squall's age. Julia is only out of Rinoa's picture at the age of 5 and supposed to be with Cid and the orphanage. But I do know that Squall is already at the orphanage at the age of 4 or the orphanage should exist by then.

Irvine: Rinoa, I understand. Someone might not be there. Someone you
love may disappear before your very eyes. It's tough when you live your
life thinking that way. But that's why I fight... (picks up a basketball)
When I was a little kid... I was about 4 or so... I was in an orphanage.

Proof to show Rinoa, Irvine, Squall are of the same age.

http://www.eyesonff.com/ff8/characters.shtml

So, you are telling Julia spilit into two person one being Edea and stay in the orphanage the other being Julia stay with her family until she is pronunced dead?

[Future Esthar]

You are thrusting in age?In the world of FF8 you can´t simply do that.
If you are surprised with my last post look at this:

Rinoa´s fathers:Julia(Edea) and Seifer Almasy

Zell´s fathers: Squall and Rinoa.

Selphie´s fathers: Zell and Quistis.

Selphie will marry in the near future with Irvine.

But weren´t them about the same age?
If this is true and Selphie is at its young,Edea should be at her´s 80´s
And Squall at its 60´s
And Quistis at her 40´s
Or something near that.
To explain this,let´s assume Julia is Edea.And Ulti is Julia(as i posted on another topic)
This means that Edea is...
Then she performs time compression.
But we know there is a time loop there in the end.
I will argue till the end on that topic in which i talk about time compression.
I will argue that TC was not supposed to end,that TC never happened at Lunatic Pandora and the first signal of time compression in Ulti´s time would be a geological catastrophe caused by the Lunar Cry in the continent.
The fact that TC ended was an ilusion from Ultimecia.
That big mess we see in the final battle was not Time Compression.Ulti deceived you well here.What smart she is.
Since the world of FF8 was already compressed it´s easy to see how do they have the same age.
Ulti even manipulated her own life in Galbadia (different state of present?)

[Winter Nights]

You are thrusting in age?In the world of FF8 you can´t simply do that.
If you are surprised with my last post look at this:

Rinoa´s fathers:Julia(Edea) and Seifer Almasy

Zell´s fathers: Squall and Rinoa.

Selphie´s fathers: Zell and Quistis.

Selphie will marry in the near future with Irvine.

But weren´t them about the same age?
If this is true and Selphie is at its young,Edea should be at her´s 80´s
And Squall at its 60´s
And Quistis at her 40´s
Or something near that.
To explain this,let´s assume Julia is Edea.And Ulti is Julia(as i posted on another topic)
This means that Edea is...
Then she performs time compression.
But we know there is a time loop there in the end.
I will argue till the end on that topic in which i talk about time compression.
I will argue that TC was not supposed to end,that TC never happened at Lunatic Pandora and the first signal of time compression in Ulti´s

What.. the.. smurf? This is getting WAY too retarded for my tastes.

[Future Esthar]

post edited.

[Xaven]

I'm sorry, but Quistis did not get in bed with Zell and have a child named Selphie - THE Selphie. I'm sorry, but no.

Autumn Rain is right, by the way. It is very apparent that you are making this up on the spot, okay? God, how did ever come up with that in the first place? Rinoa is Selphie's grandmother, my a**!

[Christmas]

You are thrusting in age?In the world of FF8 you can´t simply do that.
If you are surprised with my last post look at this:

Rinoa´s fathers:Julia(Edea) and Seifer Almasy

Zell´s fathers: Squall and Rinoa.

Selphie´s fathers: Zell and Quistis.

Selphie will marry in the near future with Irvine.

But weren´t them about the same age?
If this is true and Selphie is at its young,Edea should be at her´s 80´s
And Squall at its 60´s
And Quistis at her 40´s
Or something near that.
To explain this,let´s assume Julia is Edea.And Ulti is Julia(as i posted on another topic)
This means that Edea is...
Then she performs time compression.
But we know there is a time loop there in the end.
I will argue till the end on that topic in which i talk about time compression.
I will argue that TC was not supposed to end,that TC never happened at Lunatic Pandora and the first signal of time compression in Ulti´s time would be a geological catastrophe caused by the Lunar Cry in the continent.
The fact that TC ended was an ilusion from Ultimecia.
That big mess we see in the final battle was not Time Compression.Ulti deceived you well here.What smart she is.
Since the world of FF8 was already compressed it´s easy to see how do they have the same age.
Ulti even manipulated her own life in Galbadia (different state of present?)

What the banana? This is one of the most ******* thing I ever read in my life. So the age thingy in the official character's profile are all bull[img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] or serve no specific importance, so what the point of all those profile?

So any info of the characters beside anything based on your theory are nothing but trash and bull[img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img]????

And the marriage thingy...praise to Yu Yevon I would say and may the force be with you. I need a break from all this...

[Xaven]

-So the age thingy in the official character's profile are all bull[img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] or serve no specific importance, so what the point of all those profile?-

Hrm. I suppose we should contact the staff at EoFF site and tell them to fix the character profiles in the FFVIII section since apparantly, what they have is all BS.

[Future Esthar]

The character profiles were right.
Didn´t you read my post till the end?It seems you don´t read.
The ages are correct.
The game never says anything about Zell´s mother,Selphie´s mother,etc...
I just explained how is it that they are about the same age but have this family relationship.Read the last two lines of my post please.

[Winter Nights]

*reads it again* Yup, still hogwash.

[Christmas]

So....why Zell and Quistis, Edea and Seifer and Selphie and Irvine? What do you based on to tell all this.

And now I notice Edea\Ulti\Julia had a lot of lovers in her life, first Laguna then Caraway then Cid and finally Seifer. She sure have a outstanding lover career.

Just for your references only, the standard fan based pairings are Quistis and Seifer, Zell and Library girl <---- My favourite pairings .

[Future Esthar]

There is no love between Caraway and Julia.They were possessed by the same person(which I call X).She marries Cid to be able to create Garden and control SeeD.
No one knows she is Ulti.The Ulti they fight at her castle.
Ulti is married with Seifer at her medieval time.But her real love was Laguna.
Think of Laguna as Lancelot,Ulti as Guinevere and Seifer as Arthur.

[Winter Nights]

I really think it is time you lay down the pipe, sparky.

[Christmas]

Alright, Alright, then how do you get the Zell, Quistis, Edea, Seifer, and all those pairings. Pls enlighten me.

[Future Esthar]

Let me tell you that Seed is always working for Ultimecia (without them knowing it).
Ellone knows it and decided to be the client of Seed to save them.
She knows she need to save them from the prision or they would stay there obeying orders.
Despite Rinoa being arrested in Caraway´s house Zone and Watts saved her and she joins the "Forest owls".
Rinoa then starts fighting the government which worries her "dad".He knows that Ellone knows that he is a monster possessed by X.
Also,Rinoa knows about the secret passage in Caraways mansion.
I will make a pause and then I will explain the pairings I propose.