Creation of the Universe

**Saiyan Knight** · 07-08-2005, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by Ultima Shadow

The more you think about it and tries to figure it out, the more un-answerable questions you'll come up with. And then you'll, eventually, go insane.

Thats pretty much it in a nutshell.The creation of the universe is probaly far beyond our understanding.

**Jebus** · 07-08-2005, 01:48 AM

I had an idea about this awhile ago. It's still in EoEo somewhere for those who want to read it.

Until theoretical and quantum physics progresses a bit, I think we're a ways off from figuring this one out.

**Saiyan Knight** · 07-08-2005, 01:54 AM

Give it 50-100 years and maybe we might find out.I doubt it though.

**Mitch** · 07-08-2005, 02:04 AM

I couldn't be bothered reading all that and I don't know how many people have all ready said it, but my theory is that God created everything.

**Ultima Shadow** · 07-08-2005, 02:05 AM

Even if we do "find out" it may just be so that we "think" that we've found out.

No matter how true it may seem to be... it MAY still be completely wrong. Everything we know is nothing but what we belive that we know. No matter how sure we may be, it will still just be a guess. XD!

Originally Posted by fridaysong

I couldn't be bothered reading all that and I don't know how many people have all ready said it, but my theory is that God created everything.

Then how come god existed all of a sudden? What created god? What IS god?

**Cruise Control** · 07-08-2005, 02:09 AM

Like in heliocentricity, ppl thought that the sun was the center of the universe and planets moved in loops around the earth!

**Hroth** · 07-08-2005, 02:10 AM

You know what i'm glad about? How none of this has anything to do with god. I'm Agnostic until we find proof that the world could have been created differently. Well, not the world but any kind of matter. The anti-matter thing, about how you need matter to have anti-matter is somewhat logical, but I compare it to how scientists say that the neutrons and protons and electrons are the smallest piece of matter: what makes them? Whatever makes a proton is probably smaller then the proton so basically, whatever makes anything is made of something which basically means everything is infinite. It is somewhat irrational, but it is very logical IMO.

**Saiyan Knight** · 07-08-2005, 02:10 AM

'The more you know, the less you know'.

**Jebus** · 07-08-2005, 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by Hroth

You know what i'm glad about? How none of this has anything to do with god. I'm Agnostic until we find proof that the world could have been created differently. Well, not the world but any kind of matter. The anti-matter thing, about how you need matter to have anti-matter is somewhat logical, but I compare it to how scientists say that the neutrons and protons and electrons are the smallest piece of matter: what makes them? Whatever makes a proton is probably smaller then the proton so basically, whatever makes anything is made of something which basically means everything is infinite. It is somewhat irrational, but it is very logical IMO.

As far as we know, quarks are the smallest. Also I think neutrinos are even smaller than that, but I don't remember.

**Hroth** · 07-08-2005, 02:20 AM

Fine then, what makes a quark? Catch my drift?

**Ultima Shadow** · 07-08-2005, 02:20 AM

On the other hand... we'll hardly ever be able to identify the absolutely smallest.

So there's probably smaller things... just that we won't be able to find them.

**The Summoner of Leviathan** · 07-08-2005, 02:33 AM

Sounds cool. Really it does. I think the universe is cyclic, as you stated it constantly destroys and recreates itself. The only thing is trying to understand the initial cause. Maybe it is beyond humans comprehension. Maybe there is no actually beginning. Mayb eit is only our mind that limit us to thinking everything must begin which prevents us from actually accepting no beginning. Maybe we are a dream of a being (I thought of this before FF X came out, so i di dnot steal the idea from there, actually what I thought is somewhat weird). Maybe The HitchHikker's Guide to the Galaxyis right.

**Cruise Control** · 07-08-2005, 02:36 AM

There may be no beggining, since human thinking is so linear, just like we think time goes in a straight line, doesn't mean it's true. Time doesnt continue, it is, we just percieve its change

**Magaso** · 07-08-2005, 02:49 AM

Genesis 1.1

In the Beginning, God Created the Heavens and the Earth.

THERES YOUR ANSWER YOU ATHEISTS! < /Religious Tangent >

Sorry for that.

**Hroth** · 07-08-2005, 02:52 AM

Time is layers for all I know. And you're right, I mean what proof do we have that Earth as it is now was the first and only one that is as is now? This fact will also negate all religions as they were started by humans in "this" earth's life cycle which is basically proof that there ain't no god watching over us and that there never was and never will be. I also think that Earth is a living matter, a living being, and like all living beings, it will die. I mean, it is made of water, earth and air just like we are made of skin and different tissues, of fat and everything. There are definitely life cycles to earth, they're just longer than any of us will ever know. I find something stupid though, that we started counting time when Jesus was born... or died... whatver, it had something to do with him. It is pure bunks. There was definitely time before Jesus and there was time before there even was an earth. Another thing that is interesting in the earth's life cycles is that "aliens" might actually be old earthlings that survived long enough in the earth's life cycle to discover and travel to other planets, I don't think that's too crazy.

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