The most important (and maybe the last) theory of mine.

[Future Esthar]

I will try to put it simple.

I-Ultimecia needs to go further in the past to make time compression.
II-She needs Ellone to do that.
III-Obviously she is going to an era before Adel kidnaps Ellone(era A).
IV-People were supposed to feel TC when Adel is defeated by Squall and the others(era B).
Conclusion:
If the previous affirmations were thruth the following is also thruth:
(1)Ulti wanna to compress a range of eras which include era A and era B.

(2)Now let´s suppose Tc is progressive.
(3)Let´say she is starting to compress time and time can pass more or less fast .
(4)Obviously it will pass equally on all eras.

So the compression can be ilustrated as next:

0 ............A.....................B............
t1 .............A.........B...........
t2 ............AB...........
t TC

At instant t time is completely compressed.
If we measure the time at era A and B in the beggining of TC we get the values a and b respectively.
At instant t the values will be a+t and b+t.
At instant t1 ,a+t1 and b+t1.
etc...

If we consider the subinterval [a,b] at instant 0 it will evolve to [a+t,b+t] at t(which is the time it takes for TC to complete).

In the game t is only a few hours (time to reach Ulti´s Castle +time to fight her + little time time left) which is much more little than 17 years.
So time is fully compressed at the range [a+t,b+t].
But I ask you.If two eras were compressed it means TC happened in both.Not just in one of them.
So we conclude that the world of FF8 was already compressed.At least since the time Laguna went to Winhill up to the time Adel was defeated by Squall.
Ultimecia says only she can live in TC.
But she is a villain and villains tell lies.
If she is saying the thruth then she lies when she says she can compress time in the conditions I to IV.
Both affirmations cannot be thruth.Either one is thruth or the other.Not both.
If the world of ff8 is time compressed why it look too normal?
Because TIME COMPRESSION IS NOT CONTINUOUS.IT IS DISCREET(i.e SHE ONLY COMPRESSED A FINITE QUANTITATIVE NUMBER OF ERAS) and distributed over space.This helps to understand why they can survive on it.

So THE WORLD OF FF8 IS ALREADY TIME COMPRESSED.TIME COMPRESSION IS DISCREET AND DISTRIBUTED OVER SPACE.
I call this form of tc WELL ORGANIZED TIME COMPRESSION (WOTC).

[Sir Bahamut]

Am I missing something here? By 'measuring the time at A and B' I assume you're talking about measuring their distance from the 'beginning of time', right?

If so, you can't keep adding the same added time to both of them or they'll never get any closer. It's like if you give them the values 1 and 2, then add 4 to both of them. That would leave you with 5 and 6, meaning they're not in fact any closer, you just shoved them down the line of time.

What exactly am I missing? Or are you not making sense again?

[Future Esthar]

The topic was edited.

Sir Bahamut,I am not talking about distance.

a and b can be for example 1300 and 1600.
During each step of the compression time passes equally on all eras.
Why do you think the dimension along which time compresses is time?
It´s not time .It´s not space.It´s a pseudo-dimension without classification (Time compression dimension or something like that).

[The Anarchy Angel]

That's quite mind boggling, i'm not quite sure what you're aiming for, explain it in really dummy talk

[Sir Bahamut]

But I ask you.If two eras were compressed it means TC happened in both.Not just in one of them.
So we conclude that the world of FF8 was already compressed.At least since the time Laguna went to Winhill up to the time Adel was defeated by Squall.

Well, the range you specify(from Laguna goes to Winhill to Adels defeat) WERE certainly in a compressed state for a certain amount of time, that's true, so that was a correct conclusion.

However, it is not correct to conclude that Time Compression was ever fully completed, simply because if that were the case, we couldn't be playing the game to begin with! So I'd grant you that what you're saying is correct to a certain degree, but your main conclusion is not.

Ultimecia says only she can live in TC.
But she is a villain and villains tell lies.
If she is saying the thruth then she lies when she says she can compress time in the conditions I to IV.

Firstly, it is not Ultimecia who says she can only live in TC, it is Rinoa and Edea, who basically read her mind while being possessed. This is how Edea knows about her entire plan to cast TC to begin with.

Secondly, where is the contradiction between your points 1-4 and the statement that only Ultimecia can live in a fully compressed timeline? Because as far as I can tell, there is nothing contradictory between the two.

By the way, I really don't understand you. On one hand you post nonsense theories in the most extreme sense, but then you came with this thread and manage to actually think of something which is within the limits of reason. Granted, your conclusion is still wrong, but good job anyway.

[Ravenmorghane]

*mind blows up*

[boys from the dwarf]

*mind packed with theorys brain needs to use more power to handle them.brain gets confused shrinks then implodes blowing mine and the guy next to mes head of.*

[thinking of names is hard]

I will try to put it simple.

I-Ultimecia needs to go further in the past to make time compression.
II-She needs Ellone to do that.
III-Obviously she is going to an era before Adel kidnaps Ellone(era A).
IV-People were supposed to feel TC when Adel is defeated by Squall and the others(era B).
Conclusion:
If the previous affirmations were thruth the following is also thruth:
(1)Ulti wanna to compress a range of eras which include era A and era B.

(2)Now let´s suppose Tc is progressive.
(3)Let´say she is starting to compress time and time can pass more or less fast .
(4)Obviously it will pass equally on all eras.

So the compression can be ilustrated as next:

0 ............A.....................B............
t1 .............A.........B...........
t2 ............AB...........
t TC

At instant t time is completely compressed.
If we measure the time at era A and B in the beggining of TC we get the values a and b respectively.
At instant t the values will be a+t and b+t.
At instant t1 ,a+t1 and b+t1.
etc...

If we consider the subinterval [a,b] at instant 0 it will evolve to [a+t,b+t] at t(which is the time it takes for TC to complete).

In the game t is only a few hours (time to reach Ulti´s Castle +time to fight her + little time time left) which is much more little than 17 years.
So time is fully compressed at the range [a+t,b+t].
But I ask you.If two eras were compressed it means TC happened in both.Not just in one of them.
So we conclude that the world of FF8 was already compressed.At least since the time Laguna went to Winhill up to the time Adel was defeated by Squall.
Ultimecia says only she can live in TC.
But she is a villain and villains tell lies.
If she is saying the thruth then she lies when she says she can compress time in the conditions I to IV.
Both affirmations cannot be thruth.Either one is thruth or the other.Not both.
If the world of ff8 is time compressed why it look too normal?
Because TIME COMPRESSION IS NOT CONTINUOUS.IT IS DISCREET(i.e SHE ONLY COMPRESSED A FINITE QUANTITATIVE NUMBER OF ERAS) and distributed over space.This helps to understand why they can survive on it.

So THE WORLD OF FF8 IS ALREADY TIME COMPRESSED.TIME COMPRESSION IS DISCREET AND DISTRIBUTED OVER SPACE.
I call this form of tc WELL ORGANIZED TIME COMPRESSION (WOTC).

Obviously! How long did it take you to work that out...

[Future Esthar]

Simplified:
If all eras will be fully compressed it means that the efect of time compression will be felt on all eras.
For example, let suppose that at 18:30 Squall receives a message which says that time will be compressed at 20:00.
If 20:00 was supposed to be compressed with 18:30 there is a time loop here.
Not only will TC be felt at 20:00 but also at 18:30.It´s an interesting paradox.Think about it.
Not only 20:00 is compressed with 18:30 but also the opposite.

We halve also the question of the progressive compression but in the case of FF8 the error in the time set is minimum.

With this I prove that the world of FF8 was always compressed inside the game.
This has to be true if some of the conditions of the game(Ulti going in a far past to made time compression and it being feeled After Adel is killed,etc...) are really met.
So if my theory is wrong it means one of these conditions was false.
The fact that only Ulti can live in TC contradict my theory.
It means that either this is thruth or that conditions were all thruth.
Not both.

[thinking of names is hard]

What does TC stand for?

[Future Esthar]

TC=Time Compression.

[Sir Bahamut]

If all eras will be fully compressed it means that the efect of time compression will be felt on all eras.
For example, let suppose that at 18:30 Squall receives a message which says that time will be compressed at 20:00.
If 20:00 was supposed to be compressed with 18:30 there is a time loop here.
Not only will TC be felt at 20:00 but also at 18:30.It´s an interesting paradox.Think about it.
Not only 20:00 is compressed with 18:30 but also the opposite.

Yes, it certainly is interesting, and also shows that the effects of TC are not actually seen in every event that is compressed; at least not while TC is incomplete. After all, if the effects were visible at all points that were compressed, we should be witnessing the same kind of crazy stuff we see after Adels defeat even in discs 1 and 2!

With this I prove that the world of FF8 was always compressed inside the game.

Not entirely correct. The events we play in the game ARE inside TC, but only for a finite amount of time. After all, since the spell only lasts from the period of time where Ultimecia casts it till she dies, and never actually fully compresses time in this time, the effects of TC are only felt for a finite amount of time.

So the events in the game aren't always compressed. It would however, be correct to say that they were part of the events that TC managed to begin compressing before the spell was broken. Of course, they might not even be properly compressed for all we know. Perhaps TC never lasted long enough for us to really see proper compression. I guess we'll never know that for sure though...

The fact that only Ulti can live in TC contradict my theory.

Okay, I see what this is about. You're misunderstanding things though. Only Ultimecia can live in a completely compressed world. As explained above, full compression is never completed. Since TC never actually finishes the job, people besides Ultimecia are capable of living in the timespan we see, despite them being effected by TC.

So your theory still holds.

By the way, why ignore my previous post?

[Future Esthar]

But if you remember well TC still holds after Ulti passed her powers to Edea and died.
It was Rinoa who destroyed it.And how do you know time compression finished?.
If TC was WOTC you would never know.WOTC is subtile.

[Faith Chama]

Here's how I see it:
1- Sorceress Ultimecia comes from the future to possess the
sorceresses of the past time. She leaves her body in the future and sends only her consciousness to the past by using a time travel machine called 'Junction Machine Ellone',
But the machine must have a limit and Ultimecia needs to go back further in time to achieve time compression.
what could she do to overcome the limitation of that machine?
Sorceress Ultimecia came to know about Ellone by learning the circumstances behind the invention of "J machine E" and thus, Ellone became Ultimecia's target because only Ellone can take her back further into the past.
2- Squall and the others know about why Ulti is desperately seeking Ellone, thus they must take advantage of Ellone's power.
How you ask? I will tell you about the good guys' plan
a) There are 2 sorceresses in Squall's time. Sorceress Rinoa (Rinoa has Edea's powers). And Sorceress Adel. Of the two, ADEL MUST DIE!!
Why?
Why Adel must die?
Because the good guys are planing to beat Ultimecia at her own "Possessing & Time traveling" game!
you see...If Adel is dead, Ultimecia is left with Rinoa as the only sorceress of this era to possess. And when that happen, Ellone will quickly send Rinoa back to the past with Ultimecia.
Ellone will have to send Rinoa's and Ultimecia's consciousness inside another sorceress she knows in the past(i.e young Edea or young Adel). Once Ultimecia is in the past, she'll use the time compression
then Ellone brings back Rinoa's consciousness to the present. And Ultimecia goes back to her own world on her own. And Squall whith the others will keep moving through the time compression toward the future while fighting against a lot of weak and funny dressed Sorceresses.
Once they are out of the time compression, that will be Ultimecia's world

[Rinoa_Galatea]

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