about the origin of ultimecia (big big spoiler)

[Aurora_sword]

i have heard someone in another forum talking about ultimecia being rinoa in the future ad griever being squall, which has become her knight. this makes so much sense and i was totally freaked out/shocked/pumped/excited. what do you guys think abouit this?

[Xaven]

I havn't heard of the Griever-Squall thing, but the rest is called the R=U theory. I'm not big on it, but others are.

[Aurora_sword]

and i just heard of it a few days ago...
makes a lot of sense doesn't it?

[GooeyToast]

Meh.....sort of.

[Aurora_sword]

however
what is the reason that rinoa turned evil?

[GooeyToast]

Who knows...

[Aurora_sword]

we don't even know if its true or not...
i don't like mysteries being unsolved, they should make a sequel or a prequel

[GooeyToast]

Maybe in 10 years

[Aurora_sword]

in 10 years people would forget ff8 even existed... =_=

5 years at the very most

[GooeyToast]

It's been 8 yrs with FF7, and people havent forgotten it, have they?

[Aurora_sword]

10 is a bigger number than ten, and ff8 was released at 1999
2005-1999=6. 10+6=16
16 years is double

[GooeyToast]

They aren't making a remake.

10 is a bigger number than ten,

Really? Is that so?

[Aurora_sword]

...sorry i mean 8
10 is a bigger number than eight

[GooeyToast]

Lol

[Squall of SeeD]

The matter of Rinoa being Ultimecia is really baseless. It requires the assumption that Witches are immortal, something that the game doesn't suggest in the first place. For any points that are used to argue in favor of the concept, there's an in-game indication or a far more simple explanation that can be reasoned logically that has nothing to do with the concept.

For example, people often cite Ultimecia's castle being near/facing the flower field where Squall and Rinoa promised to meet as being evidence of this. However, there are fresh bodies of dead White SeeDs littering the beach at the Orphanage, which would suggest that Ultimecia's castle was there for her to take out the last SeeDs to settle her grudge with them before casting Time Compression.

As for Griever being Squall, that's directly contradicted by the game, which makes it clear that Ultimecia created Griever on the spot during that fight from the feelings of her opponents. Griever was, in Squall's mind, the most powerful of beings.