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    Junction Machine ellone is used in the Future so someone lets say.......................Rinoa hasnt found some one to give her powers to. and at the same time the junction machine ellone is perfected, squall and co die and Rinoa becomes how do u say ......eviiiiiiiiil......hehe
    she or some one else can use the machine to time travel
    (thats how the machine works right?)

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    All the Machine does is sends someone conciousness into the past, not their body.

    Even if it did work by moving someone's body into a different time, why would she choose to go to the future?

    Also, as I said earlier, Ultimecia is in perfect health. She isnt dying when we see her.

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    aha
    she goes to the future to try and stop the future ultimecia from wreaking havoc but when she gets to the future she forgets about her time and becomes............................eeeeeeeeeeevil......hehe
    thus becoming ultimecia and it all repeats

    and wats wrong with her suffering for some centuries? shell still be alive when squall and co come to kill her soooooooooooooo it could be her.....................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autumn Rain
    We don't know enough about the specifics of the game to make any accurate assumptions about Time Compression.. But we can state that, based on what we DO know, no one from this current time could be her.

    Ultimecia is said to be hailing from many generations into the future.. That would mean our heroes would be long dead. Which would mean Rinoa would have had to die, wait for a several decades in the agony of death for no apparent reason, then make her attack, for this theory to even work.
    I know i said I'll try to stop. but i don't think she saw her friends die and said "Hey i should become Ultimecia!!" the theory said that she became insane and eventually ended up becoming Ulti. maybe she was constantly atacked by those who were afraid of her, maybe SeeD was afraid of her becoming a evil sorceress and try to get rid of her before she became a menace... and ended up making rinoa insane and becoming Ulti??

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    Yes, that's the general theory, and it just may work if it wasnt for the lifespan of the Sorceress, which doesnt allow for Rinoa to exist, in any form, so far into the future.

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    yeah well the answer is no r=u theory
    o well but we can still come up with our own stuff just for fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbominatrix
    All the Machine does is sends someone conciousness into the past, not their body.

    Even if it did work by moving someone's body into a different time, why would she choose to go to the future?

    Also, as I said earlier, Ultimecia is in perfect health. She isnt dying when we see her.





    What if she find another way to go to the future??

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    well she is a sorceress so she does have magical powers
    she could have upgraded the Time magic so much that we could go to the future....

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    That is really really stretching it, and given that the game gives no evidence of this, no hint that such a thing can be done, it isnt logical to say so.

    And again, there is no reason for her to go into the future. Why would she want to go into the future to acheive Time Compression? Why not do it in the present time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunbladeMaster
    aha
    she goes to the future to try and stop the future ultimecia from wreaking havoc but when she gets to the future she forgets about her time and becomes............................eeeeeeeeeeevil......hehe
    thus becoming ultimecia and it all repeats
    thats why

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    That still makes no sense. If she's gone crazy, why would she want to stop Ultimecia? If she goes into Ultimecia's time, how would she become Ultimecia if Ultimecia already exists there?

    You're grasping at straws desperately in order to prove a theory that has already been disproven.

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    im not trying to prove it
    im having fun with this theory

    and if u read my post carefully ull have seen that she thought ultimecia was in the future but she wasnt there. while she was in the future she forgot about her time and BECAME ultimecia. and there she created her kingdom of terror because SeeD were trying to kill her

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    But that doesnt make sense. If Ultimecia exists in the future... lets say, for pure speculation, the year 3000. If Rinoa travels to the year 3000, a year in Ultimecia's existance, Ultimecia would already be there. For Rinoa to travel to the future and then become Ultimecia, she'd have to go earlier in the timeline, before Ultimecia had existed... but why would she do that?

    And an even bigger question.. how would she know what year Ultimecia existed in? Lets say she decided to go into the future. Well, how would she know how far to travel? They never know what year Ulti exists in... so why would she choose a random year to travel to? And if she does know the years... the above problem exists.

    Why would the SeeDs try to kill her? That had already been taken care of after Rinoa was captured and held in the game. The SeeDs have no reason to kill her, especially since Rinoa had proved herself with the others and there was no threat to pre-empt.

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    aw my head

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