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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin
    "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Note that when that at the foundation of the country, we did not have income tax, we did not have government subsidies, we did not have welfare, we did not have any of that socialist crap. You cannot have the right to your life without the right to the product of your right. The right to your life in and of itself presupposes property rights.
    No, it does not. You fail to explain how the right to your life includes the right to the product of your life. Nowhere in the Declaration of Independence does it say you get to keep every cent you earn, nowhere in the Declaration of Independence does it say it should be a right. It seems to me that the right to go on living supersedes the right to keep every cent you own because the Founders explicitly enumerated it as a right.

    Who said taxing the masses is not theft?
    Oh, right. I guess funding government's not really that important.. Without "this socialist crap" we would have no armed forces, no law enforcement, no education system. Sounds like anarchy to me, but heaven forbid the government should steal from the people!

    If researchers and investors had not already shelled out millions of dollars, we would not have come this far. But they did so by choice, of their own free will. It was not stolen from them.
    You didn't answer my question. Are you arguing that people who can't afford to have treatment for AIDS deserve to die? A simple yes or no will do.

    Quote Originally Posted by radyk05
    so, a guy studies in a private college years and years without any kind of grant ('cause his parents were rich but hated him for some reason so they didn't pay for his education) to become a doctor. a good doctor, mind you. he worked his ass off so he could pay for his studies in medicine and all that came with the student life. people need his help (after all, he is a doctor). is it wrong for him to charge the people who he helps?
    He'd be earning money. The government would supply it for him.
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