But first, the best strategy ever.
Originally Posted by Captain_Spaulding
But first, the best strategy ever.
Originally Posted by Captain_Spaulding
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I successfully defeated the Dark Aeons and Penance with under 100 stats! How did I do that? Well, First strike Weapon for Auron, then switch in for Yuna, which summoned Yojimbo, and got Zanmato each and every time!
i've been thinking.. do i really need break hp limit? i mean dark aeons always give you 99999 damage..
which is better
[auto-haste]
[auto-phoenix]
[auto-protect]
[break hp limit]
or
[auto-haste]
[auto-phoenix]
[auto-protect]
[ribbon]
syun_ukiya
http://www.animexe.tk
Auto protect isn't really needed, get ribbon instead, Break hp limit IS needed, without that you basically die, faster then you would with 30,000ish HP, even though that still can consider a one-hit-KO, but still the extra HP is always good.
But like you said, They always do 99,999, so maybe its not really needed, however, I'd rather have 20,000++ hp then protect automatically casted on me, when I can just do that myself in one turn.
i've read this in neoseeker.. don't you think it makes sense?
Break HP Limit = Unnecessary (includes best armor combo)
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BHPL is often a favorite ability for many FFX players and it's somewhat a pleasure to exceed this amount than the traditional maximum of 9,999 in the FF series. However...you will easily find that it's an ineffectual ability. It is also a waste of time when obtaining Wings to Discovery...9,999 is all the HP you need.
There is no attack in FFX that can deal over 9,999 to ALL your party members that cannot be predicted or defended against. If so, an easy Auto-life can solve this.
BHPL also have shifty effects on your Celestial Weapons. Weapons like the Caladbolg and World Champion exhibit their full potential when your health is full, and maintaining 99,999hp through those tough Arena battles is tedious and wastes precious turns.
There is no item that can restore over 9,999hp...so it's best to keep your HP capped at that amount to save space on your armor and on your sphere grid.
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This armor combination works more wonders than BHPL:
[Auto-Phoenix]
[Auto-Haste]
[Auto-Protect]
[Auto-Potion] (sell all Potions and Hi-Potions)
OPTIONAL
[Defense +20%] (against Dark Aeons and Penance)
[Auto-Shell] (against Nemesis)
With this mechanic, any fallen character will immediately revived; and when a character takes damage, it will be reduced by the auto-protect/shell effects; and when a character gets into the SOS status, he or she will automatically use an X-Potion to fully restore health.
That is the armor to have, and the effects like Haste, Protect, and Shell...they save time and cannot be dispelled, even after a KO. It saves the time to cast Hastega and Protect/Shell on the entire party too (if you notice, when casted, Hastega will cut back a few of your turns on the CTB. Auto-Haste solves this problem, and it will save your arse in many fights, including the Dark Aeons).
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So basically...forget BHPL and use the above armor abilities for easy battles, unless you like big numbers.
BTW...against Nemesis, his Armageddon will shoot for 99,999 against everyone, so BHPL won't help you there. This also applies to other attacks like Dark Anima's Pain or Dark Bahamut's Impulse.
syun_ukiya
http://www.animexe.tk
Even with auto-protect and defence at 255, penance still does 12000 damage to my party with obliteration, and there is no way to predict that...
how can you make him do less than 9999 damage??? maybe ill just stick to using break HP Limit.
Use Cheer x5. And no, you do not need BHPL for ANY boss in the game, Dark Aeons and Penance included. It can actually be a liability in some battles.Originally Posted by Blitz Ace
so i am right then? i should replace bhpl to some other abilities..
i'm also thinking about giving it only to yuna since if he stays alive she can heal the rest of the party..
syun_ukiya
http://www.animexe.tk
Why! I've been resetting and fighting dark aeons and they won't drop an armor with ribbon for one of my 3 best characters (tidus, yuna, wakka)! so i've been thinking.. can stoneproof be an alternative for ribbon? i know i'd be getting one by capturing monsters.. but what about the other two.. I think I should only be afraid of petrification, right? The instant death can be countered by auto-phoenix. And so does sleep proof..
Does anyone have a picture of what penance looks like?
I can't hit yojimbo with 230+ accuracy! Damn looks like I'm gonna use 255 accuracy with lots of aim.. Can sombody explain aim? is it for one turn only and you have to re-cast it again?
What is the max damage of blitz ace and attack reels at 255 str? at my current str (180++) blitz ace hits for 3k-4k against yojimbo and 70K with a blitzball. my attack reels does 30-40k dmg.
Will this improve when i increase it to 255? It seems that the single dmg (if it hits) is much stronger than overdrives (99999, except for a perfect attack reel).
EDIT: I've been thinking of a few strategies.. tell me if they're wrong..
use auto-med.. i think if it automatically cures you from status effect everything will be fine.. auto-med will replace auto-phoenix since i can't find them useful fighting dark bahamut, yojimbo etc. i just don't know if it cures multiple ailments in one turn.. eg. when your cursed and it already used remedy..
use auto-potion.. only x-potion in your inventory. so tidus heals himself back to 9999 for max dmg for celestial..
yuna not in your party.. i find it hard to make yuna use summon before the dark aeons perform their overdrives.. i dunno if yuna's agi is maxed.
rikku's flash flood.. its a multiple dmg attack right? is it possible to have 99999 on one attack? if it does.. it will look like attack reels!
Last edited by syun_ukiya; 07-26-2005 at 05:32 AM.
syun_ukiya
http://www.animexe.tk
This is due to Dark Yojimbo having such a high Luck stat (114). Even with 255 Accuracy you will still miss quite often unless you raise your own Luck stat. Aim increases your Accuracy (even above 255) and can help with landing attacks. It stacks 5 times and lasts the entire battle or until that character dies (not positive on whether it can be removed through things like Dispel).Originally Posted by syun_ukiya
The max damage, like any of your parties attacks, is 99,999dmg although your overdrives will not reach that, even at 255 strength, against the later Dark Aeons due to their stats. [/QUOTE]Originally Posted by syun_ukiya
Auto-Phoenix is much more useful, stick with that. There are only a few cases where Auto-Med would be useful but Ribbon or Stoneproof along with Auto-Phoenix is a much better choice.Originally Posted by syun_ukiya
Assuming that you do not have BHPL this can be helpful as well as save you a lot of time, especially against Penance.Originally Posted by syun_ukiya
This should go without saying, always have Yuna ready to swap in and summon the instant you need her. The best party for fighting the Dark Aeons/Penance (and IMO all around) is Tidus, Wakka, and Rikku due to their overdrives.Originally Posted by syun_ukiya
You will never see that much damage against Dark Aeons because of their high M. Defense and most of them either absorb all elemental attacks are or immune to them.Originally Posted by syun_ukiya
how much do you pay yojimbo for zanmato? i always only pay him 1001gil and hope for the best, i get zanmato most of the time....
i never use rikku.. what mix do you recommend against dark aeons?
so aim can be casted maximum of 5 times only? i don't think i can depend on attack much since it waste lots of my turn. i can only attack dark yojimbo using overdrives! Can doublecast ultima be an alternative? if i increase my magic to 255 will it land 99999 dmg to dark yoijimbo (he doesn't absorb ultima, right?)
so far i defeated him without using BHPL.. and i don't intend to have 255 def.. I think it will lower my chances of having a full overdrive after enemy attack (stoic) and so does BHPL. Correct this if I'm wrong.
I'm just need to fight him many times (without permanently killing him) so I can get my ribbon armor for my characters.
syun_ukiya
http://www.animexe.tk
Why does everyone here except me have the international version!? This SUCKS!