Songs that "rip Off" Back grounds

[MJN SEIFER]

I dunno why but I thought do a thread about this.

Has anyone heard anysongs that are a different tune to other songs but have the same background MUSIC. It's hard to explain. The music is the same but the lyrics and tune (Of the Lyrics -Not music is different) Some examples are.



"Under Pressure" ~Queen and "Ice Ice Baby!" ~Vannilla Ice

"Dude" ~ Beenie Man and "Gunshot" ~Akon

There's also a song that's music (not tune) sounds like a song that I think is called "I know this much is true" But I don't know what the other song is.

Man I'm having dificulty describing this...

[Flying Mullet]

It's called sampling and sadly enough a lot of musicians do it. You'll find that a lot of musicians have sampled over the years.

Ice Ice Baby is an example of where Vanilla Ice sampled from Queen.

[Chris]

LL Cool J's hit song "Doin' It" is sampled from Grace Jones' original hit from 1982: "My Jamaican Guy."

[nik0tine]

Grace Jones.

[Flying Mullet]

I've noticed that a lot of R&B, rap and hip hop songs made in the last ten years sample heavily from Motown and other older funk songs. It's really sad there isn't more new material.

[Chris]

I've noticed that a lot of R&B, rap and hip hop songs made in the last ten years sample heavily from Motown and other older funk songs. It's really sad there isn't more new material.

Right, like Grace Jones. BASTARDS.

Grace Jones.

'Bless. <3

[BabyVixen]

That song by P Diddy and R. Kelly - "I'm Gonna Be Alright" Jlo and Nas

[Hawkeye]

That's because they all suck

[Flying Mullet]

All songs involving P Diddy/Puff Daddy/Sean "Puffy" Combs are samples. The guy's a great businessman but can't make his own original music to save his life.

[GooeyToast]

All songs involving P Diddy/Puff Daddy/Sean "Puffy" Combs are samples. The guy's a great businessman but can't make his own original music to save his life.

I know. He completely ripped off the Police's "Every Breath You Take", as well as quite a few other songs.


~Keep it gooey~

[MecaKane]

I know. He completely ripped off the Police's "Every
Breath You Take", as well as quite a few other songs.

Ripping off would imply he's trying to get away with something. And it's a staple of the goddamn rap industry, get over it. These people write their own rhymes/lyrics, which is more than you can say about most of the other music on the radio and TV.

[GooeyToast]

Was I complaining?

No.

I am aware of the rap indusrty, and how everyone "borrows" songs. I was simply saying he took the Police's "Every Breath You Take", kept the same melody, changed it to "I'll be missing you", and called it his own. THAT is not "writing your own lyrics".


~Keep it gooey~

[crashNUMBERS]

It's called sampling and sadly enough a lot of musicians do it. You'll find that a lot of musicians have sampled over the years.

Ice Ice Baby is an example of where Vanilla Ice sampled from Queen.

Thank you!! I already knew what sampling was but I didn't think thats what he was talking about...

Umm...

"Super freak" - Rick james and "You can't touch this" - MC Hammer, Though I hate both of these songs...

Also!! "Got yourself a gun" - Nas and "SuperUgly" - Jay-Z. Jay-Z took it so he can diss nas with his own beat...

[Cuchulainn]

You need to be careful using 'ripping off'. Sean Combs PAID royalties to use that melody. The lyrics however were original, not to him ofc he has a wagon load of Ghostwriters, I believe Jay Z or Jadakiss wrote it.

However Vanilla Ice DID rip off queen as he paid zero towards it & denied sampling. Another case was The Verves Bittersweet Symphony. Richard Ashcroft used Rolling Stones chords & recieved little to nothing in way of money for that song, he too never asked the original artists permission.

It happens everywhere. In hip hop it's an art. Hip Hop producers, and indeed ANY audio producer hunts for music to sample, experiment & come up with a great beat. Nowadays, it's not profitable to steal, it's easier for all concerned to make the royalty deal BEFORE the track is released, that way popularity & a court case won't affect how much you can pay out.

[krissy]

if someone doesn't like sampling they obviously haven't heard of a little band called The Avalanches