On the punk scene I think there is too much emphasis on selling out. A band signs to a bigger not even major label and they have sold out. Pfft. A band has to make money. Sure, it might be nice to stick to the punk ethic and play gigs in dirty pubs travelling about in a rusty van, but ethics don't pay the bills.

You need to make money, and in our society that is unavoidable.

I do find it amusing when an anti corporate band, such as Anti-Flag goes and signs to a major label. Hmmmm.....there is such a thing as doing a U-turn in all you believe to make money.

And someone asked what the grime scene was? Uh, as far as I know its an offshoot/similar genre of UK garage music. Basically urban music, fast MC'ing over digitaly produced sampled tracks with fast beats. Called grime because...as far as I can tell, it has a grimey feel to it. I've heard a fair bit of it, it grows on you after a time. Although the only MC I can remeber the name of is Wiley the Eskimo Boy. I think. Typically a "black" music genre of the urban variety started in London.
You can get some very impressing MCing, very fast and stuff. Mind you, you also get some rubbish. Best bit I heard was "You think you're so cool cos you got a beard but I just think it makes you look weird."

Chaos