The New Testament is filled with quite a lot of death and destruction, too. Or are you a Christian?Originally Posted by War Angel
The New Testament is filled with quite a lot of death and destruction, too. Or are you a Christian?
He's Jewish I believe. From Israel, Kind of why I've started ignoring most of which he writes about Islam. It's hard to see outside the eye of the storm. Not impossible, but hard.
I was under the impression it doesn't teach those are solutions to certain problems. Perhaps I need to refresh my knowledge.The New Testament is filled with quite a lot of death and destruction, too.
*points to his location, which is the absolute truth* Even though, to me, it's not really that holy, just really really important culturally, historicaly and emotionally.Or are you a Christian?
When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one yourself... when gazing into the abyss, bear in mind that the abyss also gazes into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
The rightful owner of this Ciddie can kiss my arse! :P
terrorism is not a real problem. 3,000 americans in one day may be a tragedy. but it is not the world's end. and it was going to happen at one point in time anyway. like the oklahamo bomb. some nutter is always gonna want to blow stuff up. but we do not need to stereotype these people for the case of a few nutters. to stereotype an entire race and religion over one day's violence no matter how evil is not worth it.
and about the koran being such a nasty book. it really isn't. while it may have some nasty violent parts, so does the bible. a little list is needed here.
jericho
sodom and ghomorrah
wiping out every first born son in egypt.
that whole noah thing was a bit ott
wiping out the egyptian army in the red sea.
and the torah says the same. and some of the koran has similar stuff. a few battles. a bit of destruction. and some good bits with tolerance, loving thy neighbour and enemy and all that kinda stuff.
and it all depends on the interpertation. some people will agree with the old testament. others will not. some will follow the koran to the very letter. some will deviate. some people will always use the religious texts to preach hate. but this was not their real purpose and still is not their purpose. it is an abuse of a religion. in the same way we have these islamic nutters in israel in palestine you have right wing jewish nuts, and here we have right wing christain head cases to. but these people are few and far between when all things are considered and are not worth stereotyping people over.
"Jews didn't build a synagogue every freaking second, nor did they express ill-sentiments (not to say hatred) towards their country, and they most certainly didn't blow themselves up and kill others."
so all muslims are to be punished for a few bad eggs? how about we just knock down these mosques and we can build a car park over a few. somewhere else they did that.... berlin. and i express ill sentiments towards america. so are all british people now evil? there's far too many of us i say. we set up places for us to practice our religions freely and all sorts of badness. out we all go, very dangerous are we with our places of worhsip and not liking america. yeah..... because all british people are evil now because what i say. even if they were a thousand more like me (which there are) it's still of no concequence.
what's wrong with building places of worship? what's wrong with not liking a country? and certainly what is wrong with being muslim?
All those stories come from the Old Testament, which, from what I understand, is simply the mythos of Christianity. The New Testament, on the other hand, is the ethos. With the exception of the Ten Commandments, very few Christians take the Old Testament to heart.
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All of those stories are from the Old Testament, but they are also from the Torah (which is the first five books of the Hebrew Scriptures, what the Christians refer to as "The Old Testament"). Just to make sure we're clear on the matter.
And the New Testament gets a lot of praise for being a happy, more merciful version of the Old Testament, but I really hate that stance. Growing up in a Jewish household, I can assure you that the "Old Testament" has a lot of the happy-feeling passages, just like the New Testament. Also like the New Testament, it has a lot of death and destruction.
War Angel - Jesus is claimed to be a complete pascifist, but his arguments tend to be of the angry, annoyed side. Jesus just took the more literal punishments of the past and made them spiritual. No longer will he "dash your little ones against the ground", but now he'll make you pluck out your eye if you're using it to sin, lest you go to his Hell.
Besides, any Christian who doesn't take the Old Testament seriously is a pretty bad Christian. Considering Jesus himself said that he was coming to fulfill the old prophecies (not destroy them), and that Jesus is supposed to be the same as God the Father.
If Islam is an evil, evil religion fuled by the monstrocities found in the Qu'ran, then Judaism and Christianity are just as bad.
hell in it's self is a pretty crappy idea. eternal damnation for a believe? what about all those folks in india and australia and stuff that never even heard of jesus til they were discovered. gonna burn for that? that's not very nice.
this thread seems to be one of the very very few in which me and hachifusa echo each other.
and lets not forget hindhuism, that has some pretty nasty stuff in it too.
I'm pretty disappointed here...I came here to have a fun time, to write about games and stuff. While people always blame moslims even here. I myself am moslim from Irak living in Holland for about 7 years. I'm born on 11th of september. Does this make me a crazy girl who's trying to destroy the world with bombs and stuff? Hell no!
Have you guys even ask yourselves why these people are doing this? Isn't it because President Bush and his army is in Iraq (okay, okay...not Bush himself, but you get the picture). Isn't it because he had a lame excuse that there are very dangerous weapons there? Well? Where are the weapons now? And what is Bush doing in Irak at the moment? While you guys are very down with England, these kind of things happen in Iraq all the time. Do you care about Iraq? No, ofcourse! Because Iraq is full of Moslims whose lives aren't important enough. So, some of the the Moslims in Iraq blame Bush and others and try to strike back!
Don't understand me wrong, i'm not happy about all the bad things happening in the world and am certanly not happy about the Moslims who don't think before they act. But don't give all the blame to moslims before asking yourselves why they are doing this.
Glad someone else recognizes this fact. Believe me, I'm not paranoid exclusively towards Islam, I expect Judaism and Christianity to be just as dangerous in many ways. But as it stands, there aren't so many Jews and Christians running around blowing themselves up nowadays.
no, they blow other people up from the safety of tanks and airplanes.
i never supported the war in iraq. i do support us being there now though. we screwed up. we shouldn't have screw up. but we did. and so now we have to fix that dandy little mess we have made.
somee of you really need to have a more open mind. Just because some of the suicide bombers are islamic does not mean that all muslims are suicide bombers. You cant judge a whole group by the reactions of one person. There are over 1 billion muslims worldwide, how many suicide bombers have there been altogether, a couple of hundred maybe. Its like saying that if serial killers kill because of something said in the bible then all christians are evil fanatics. You just cant do this. Look at the crusades. Christian people killed thousands of people in the holy lands. They said it was for christiantiy but they really did it to rape, loot and kill. Im a good christian but i can happily admit that christians have done many wrong things. So are you just going to listen to paranoid tabaloids that say blame it on islam?
why do they bomb us but if we were them id think that the u.s sucks but i don't see because i'd probley be one of them but whats there next target New york?
Darkness........ A strange element yet how are we able to use such a power?
can someone translate that for me?
i uh sorta got the words mixed up my bad.
Darkness........ A strange element yet how are we able to use such a power?
realy being an atheast i think all religions are stupid, all they do i giv ppl a reason 2 fight and argue with each other, how many wars have been started through religion ?, i dont think that all muslums should be blamed 4 what has happened just the few extreamsts who have been blowing things up, personally i dont even know any muslims, how many of you's do ? if u read the Qu'ran it basicly sez that u go 2 hell if u commit suicide ?
i think what some radicals have been doing is disgusting, but u cant blame a whole race of ppl. i mean look at that guy who was shot 8 times in the head at point blank range becoz he was "belived" 2 be a suicide bomber, however they use stun guns on know terrorists ?
but one thing i do not understand is: why are they doing this, what duz it accomplish ? it's not as if its one group saying "giv us a £100000 or we'll blow stuff up" or "let such-and-such out of jail or we'll blow stuff up" it just breeds more hatred ?
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