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    Quote Originally Posted by Mo-Nercy
    Quote Originally Posted by spartancode117
    I just downloaded every final fantasy (on the nintendo systems) to my PSP! and i have 7-10 on the PS2! WHOPEEEEE!
    What about MQ? Legend I, II, III and Adventure I, II, III? X-2? XI? TSW?
    Considering it's impossible to own Final Fantasy Adventure II and III, I'd say it's clear he doesn't. :P

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    The only time i ever used a emulator was when my mate copied me a disk of his emulators, so that isnt illegal is it?
    And if you are a true final fantasy fan, you should buy them, not do some dodgy thing over the internet or something
    I have never had a ff on emulator, only GBA games from my mates disk
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    I own them all in one form or another, and no its not a "cheap thing people say to justify it" If you own the game, you can own the ROM. The only dubious games i have for ROMs are MQ and FFIII, the rest I own. (Except the craptastic gameboy series thats not even FF really, so I don't even have those as ROMs)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedCydranth
    I own them all in one form or another, and no its not a "cheap thing people say to justify it" If you own the game, you can own the ROM. The only dubious games i have for ROMs are MQ and FFIII, the rest I own. (Except the craptastic gameboy series thats not even FF really, so I don't even have those as ROMs)

    No you cannot. Even if you own the games YOU HAVE NO RIGHT to download them onto your computer. It is illegal. Roms are illegal. Show me proof right now that says it is ok that you can do this. And showing me a link to someones site who makes roms and lets people download them is NOT proof.

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    Acctually, the cool thing about America (Where I live) is that its legal until said otherwise, so in this case, YOU have to prove its illegal. I don't have to prove anything. If you want to prosecute me and the other people who own ROMs, you have to come up with evidence, not me. Innocent until PROVEN guilty.

    Any program I own is called software, wether or not its on Cartridge or CD. Under US law, creating a backup of software that you own is legal, otherwise, ZIP files, ZIP disks and the ability to copy any program on your computer would be illegal.

    EXAMPLE: I own Photoshop, and I burned the discs in case anything happens to my original copy. This is not illegal. HOWEVER, distributing these disks is illegal. Thus, I can create ROM files on my computer as back-up to the ones I own, but not give them to anyone. And again, I only own 2 illegal ROMs, MQ and FFIII.

    As to wether or not emulators are illegal, this has actually been settled in court. Bleem!, a well known playstation emulator company was taken to court and they ruled in favor of Bleem!. So, I can have an emulator legally and ROMs of games that I have... LEGALLY... There, I proved it and you are straight up wrong.
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    thank you, I wanted to say that but you put it much better than I would have... maybe that will shut him up

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedCydranth
    Acctually, the cool thing about America (Where I live) is that its legal until said otherwise, so in this case, YOU have to prove its illegal. I don't have to prove anything. If you want to prosecute me and the other people who own ROMs, you have to come up with evidence, not me. Innocent until PROVEN guilty.

    Any program I own is called software, wether or not its on Cartridge or CD. Under US law, creating a backup of software that you own is legal, otherwise, ZIP files, ZIP disks and the ability to copy any program on your computer would be illegal.

    EXAMPLE: I own Photoshop, and I burned the discs in case anything happens to my original copy. This is not illegal. HOWEVER, distributing these disks is illegal. Thus, I can create ROM files on my computer as back-up to the ones I own, but not give them to anyone. And again, I only own 2 illegal ROMs, MQ and FFIII.

    As to wether or not emulators are illegal, this has actually been settled in court. Bleem!, a well known playstation emulator company was taken to court and they ruled in favor of Bleem!. So, I can have an emulator legally and ROMs of games that I have... LEGALLY... There, I proved it and you are straight up wrong.
    This is all assuming you actually backed up the ROMs yourself. If you downloaded them, that's illegal. You cannot give nor get copyrighted content through the internet legally unless the original author intended it to be that way. Putting it on your PSP is essencially illegal because now you have taken your back-up and used it for something it was not intended for (even though using it on the PC is illegal in the first place) because it is improper usage of intellectual property.

    Of course, I'm not really arguing with you. You aren't gonna get caught so no one really cares. I'm just trying to make you realize that not everything is legal. Having (self-copied) ROMs and Emulators aren't illegal, it's how you use them that makes it illegal. But hey, if they actually attempted to fine everyone for that, it would become a giant mess, just like the P2P and BitTorrent feuds.

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