This is ridiculous.
I speak in English, but was born in Australia. Does that make me English?
I speak in French, but was born in China. Does that make me French?
I speak in Japanese, but was born in Germany. Does that make me Japanese?
Your nationality is based on what nation you and your ancestors are from. Your bloodline originates from the blood of your parents. Neither are based on what language you speak.
With reference to OdaiseGaelach, you ignore everything everyone else says & repeat yourself. Repeat your absurd standpoint to the point of ignorance, insult & pigheaded stupidity. This is where I leave this debate as it is going nowhere.
Never argue with a fool, people might not know the difference
I agree with all of you, to some point.
Many young people in Ireland choose not to learn Irish, and that way they lose a little bit of their history. But then again, people can't be forced to learn Irish. I speak a little bit of Irish only because I learned it from my uncle. To say that I feel Irish just because I speak the language would be wrong - I do however, feel that the Irish youth need to take initiative and learn their history, properly.
I'm not going to be able to win this, so I'm just going to admit defeat and run from this thread well and truly beaten.
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i'm scottish and don't know a word of gaelic. it's a dead language and hardly taught. same with irish. the national language of ireland is english. find me and irish man who's first language is irish. it's as much an alive language as gaelic, welsh, cornish and latin. it is not needed and isn't taught greatly. it does not make you irish to speak it. because if you have irish parents, lived in irelands all your live but don't speak the language what is your nationality? swedish?
I would hardly say that Gaelic is a "dead" language. In parts of Nothern Ireland Gaelich is the first language and you learn English as the second language in school. So, it's hardly dead.
Originally Posted by Chris
Prolly wanna the better posts here. Language can indeed pull you closer to your history.
STILL Updating the anime list. . . I didn't think I was that much of an anime freak! I don't even want to consider updating the manga list!
Only small and relatively remote villages speak gaelic. Theyre hard to find but the language is very weak to say the least. Even the gaelic speaking people can speak english.
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no person in scotland speaks gaelic as a first language. those days are gone. what is this legend of remote villages? is not like some place waiting to be discovered where the people all have funny superstitions and have never seen a tv.
Places that are hard to get and travel to like an Island or something along those lines. Theres an Irish speaking village near my town called "Ring" and its a few miles of the main road through some woods and stuff. I think they never started speaking english because no english people ever went to the bother of travelling there or something like that.
In the north western areas of Ireland, known as the Gaeltacht area, Gaelic is the first language.
I think the last thing Ireland needs is more divisions and more denunciations.
True. But Ireland can't move forward unless they accept and acknowledge their heritage as a united country = learning Irish and evovle further as a united nation.
Theyd "evolve" just as much if they joined the UK but thats certainly not a good idea. Not that Id support that idea or anything. I just dont think embracing heritage or the language has anything to do with making the country prosper. Heritage is nice but its not that big a deal in my opinion.
How do you propose that Irleand evolve if they don't embrace their heritage as a country? How can a country (or someone for that matter) evolve if they don't know, or don't accept their heritage? Makes no sense to me.
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