i think getting tonberry king is possible when the timers still there but i dont reccomend it as it will take too much time to kill all those tonberrys.are you having trouble finding or beating odin because it isnt that hard realy?you need to kill about 20 tonberrys to get to tonberry king but thats this many tonberrys in only 10 minutes. all thats and a king in 10 mins.id like to see that happen. .