Indeed, that's the point I was making. Shops can't force parents to obey common sense; they've got to do it themselves - but a strong censor's restriction, like the kind used on pornography, is probably a good way to help.
It's odd - I doubt any parents would by an R18 magazine or movie for their kids, but they'll happily buy a video game with the same rating - and similar content.
Well, congratulations to GTA: SA for being the first game with an AO rating!
But really, it's not like it's for kids anyway...I think an AO rating is befitting, though I agree the reasoning behind it is...stupid.
But really, what difference does it make if it's rated "M" or "AO"? Like, one year older? But then I guess the whole "omg we're Walmart so we're too good to sell such garbage" thing is somewhat of a big deal...especially when you live in an area like this where there's no where to shop but Walmart (seriously). o__O
Hilary dissapoints me.
I like Kung-Fu.
Glad this got such a talk going. I would agree that San Andreas was already asking for an AO rating, with or without the minigame. I also think that the biggest loser here is not the consumer, or Hilary Clinton (She's just the biggest), but the biggest loser is the developers who will have Hilary Clinton's putrid hot breath down their necks as they work developing games for the new wave of consoles.
I sure as hell wouldn't recommend these games to kids. I got a little brother who was 12 when I got the game and I didn't even let him watch me play it until recently. Frankly, it's just over the top on all levels. I hope that now after they have seen just how far they can push their luck, Rockstar will focus more on actual gameplay elements (And making the radio more worthwhile) in the next game instead of seeing how many times they could add [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] into every cutscene.
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Rating a game for content only accessible via third party codebreaking is purely ridiculous. So many games carry the M rating (games which parents only too gladly continue to buy their underage children), now with an AO rating, suddenly store-owners won't even carry them and parents might suddenly say "no" if they see them. I swear, so many parents in the world are just so . . . stupid.
Actually, I disagree with the rating. 'M' is and always has been the video game 'R' rating. To state that sex that shows no genitial makes it deserve an 'AO' rating dubs it porn. 'R' rated movies have shown the same, sometimes more. Doesn't that mean that they are rating it harsher than movies?
Once again, people prove that their stupidity by treating a device used mostly by adults like a child's toy. :rolleyes2
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While I don't care to play San Andreas, I do care about this. The rating system has been constantly evolving to show parents and the media that games are to be treated in the same sect as movies and books. That video games are more than children's playthings. Then, the ESRB goes and rates a game harsher than any other media. This is a step backwards for the game industry. And if they can be pressured to make such a statement against a little sexual content.. How long do you think it will take for them to be pressured into rating games harsher for violence, as well?
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I wholeheartedly agree, and apparently, so does the ESRB:Originally Posted by Big D
Source. I honestly think it's a worthwhile measure. It's not like these unused bits of data just sneak in from magic pixie land. Smuggling stuff past the ESRB by placing whatever you want in the game's unused portions is a rather idiotic loophole."Going forward, the ESRB will now require all game publishers to submit any pertinent content shipped in final product even if is not intended to ever be accessed during game play, or remove it from the final disc."
Um, how come it took so long for them to find out? Why punish GTA:SA's makers if they were too stupid to find it during the first few months it came out?
People just look for excuses to attack game developers for crap like this. Know why? Because they make the most money of all of the entertainment industry, and most of these people just want some of their billions of dollars. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending this game, I'm defending the game industry in general.
Because it was hidden on the disc. It is not even accessable by normal means in the game, you must go externally and hack into areas of the disc that you can't even possibly get to any other way. Gameshark and devices like this are the only way to access Hot Coffee.
Oooh. If you can only get it by Gameshark, I don't see the big deal. To prevent people from freaking out, they should make a special rating version that has those minigames and the normal M rated version without the minigame.Because it was hidden on the disc. It is not even accessable by normal means in the game, you must go externally and hack into areas of the disc that you can't even possibly get to any other way. Gameshark and devices like this are the only way to access Hot Coffee.
I already got the game, got it when it first came out, it doesnt really affect me at this time, but still.
Hilary clinton must get really bored.
Hilary: Hm, well all the important issues are covered I think Ill pick on games.
Me: Damn you hilary, you may have screwed up other things for me.
Too big. The height limit is 250 pixels including images as well as text.
I would make a joke about her and being bored, but it's not quite appropriate.
The is a video of this at SpikedHumor.com, i'd provide a direct link, BUT i think i might get banned for real. So just know that its there. And after seeing it, well they didnt have a choice, but to rate this game Ao.
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