Quote Originally Posted by rubicant
But what about when Paine says' "they died here" or something that extent at the Den of Woe. (which is what I am basing this analysis on).
Uh... she was talking about the other dozens of guys that were part of the Crimson Squad candidate group. The ones that did die. Why would you cite this as evidence for Nooj, Baralai, and Gippal being dead when Paine was not only talking about those other guys, but when the apparition of Shuyin immediately states afterwards that those three lived?:

Paine: This is what destroyed the Squad. Despair strong enough to crush the minds of those it touches. What just happened to us happened to them, too. Here. They felt Shuyin's despair. They went mad, and they died. They killed each other!

::Images of Nooj, Gippal, and Baralai appear::

Shuyin: But these three lived.

Shuyin: So...I decided to use them.

Paine: You'll pay!