Suspected suicide bomber shot in London

[Madame Adequate]

the question needs to be why was he suspected? what idiot police guy decide he was a threat? if we had a good intelligence system this would have been prevented. but it seems they guessed. and were wrong. and that resulted in the death of an innocent man. and having a intelligence system that resulted in that and could do again and is not being investigated leads only to suspicion.

Have you not read what Gnostic Yevon and I said?

He was moving in and through locations under surveillance in connection with terrorism.
It was just after the July 21st bombs failed to go off.
He was wearing a heavy winter coat, in the middle of July.
Upon being told to stop, he ran - towards the tube station.

So if you're a police officer charged with stopping a repeat of something which happened just two weeks earlier, and you take this into account, are you going to think "Hm, it's ok, he's probably just afraid of us." or are you going to think "He's probably a suicide bomber, we can't afford to take chances."?

Because I know which I would rather the police charged with my protection thought.

I don't want innocent people to die, of course not. And I would insist that the proper investigative procedures be gone through following any case like this. But I cannot fault the officers for their actions on the ground.

[lordblazer]

i spend a whole heap of my time in glasgow so yes i do know about violence thank you very much for being so patronising.

and the thing about gang crime is that it is not committed by the people meant to protect us. it's not committed by an official organisation who time after time cannot get intelligence right.

What I'm trying to tell you is.You need to just let this go because the guy who died was really at the wrong place at the wrong time.Happens all the time.

[Cloud No.9]

lordblazer you are shrugging it off again. it shouldn't happen.

this man was killed by paranoid police unlawfully. if the police are that paranoid and likely to judge then they are not trained enough. police officers cannot be jumpy. they must be level headed at all times. this time they shot at some guy who was innocent and has a family.

what are we gonna tell them ""You need to just let this go because the guy who died was really at the wrong place at the wrong time.Happens all the time."?

[Rini]

As soon as you let the paranoia go that far, the terrorists have already won.

my thoughts exactly.

[lordblazer]

lordblazer you are shrugging it off again. it shouldn't happen.

this man was killed by paranoid police unlawfully. if the police are that paranoid and likely to judge then they are not trained enough. police officers cannot be jumpy. they must be level headed at all times. this time they shot at some guy who was innocent and has a family.

what are we gonna tell them ""You need to just let this go because the guy who died was really at the wrong place at the wrong time.Happens all the time."?

it shouldn't happen I understand that but it does happen.The police are always in a dammed if they do and dammed if they don't situation.The guy got into the wrong place at the wrong time...I mean what if the police told him to stay still and the guy did and theytook the risk to approach the guy then he blows up and that cop loses his life a long with many other people.

I agree with you on the fact that dead men never talk.But that was the situation and these things happen.You have to learn to move on and deal with it and pray for the soul of that innocent man.

[Cloud No.9]

if you move on too soon you don't deal with the problem. if these guiys were trained better to deal with this then they wouldn't have panicced. if the intelligence system was better then he wouldn't have been suspected. and most of all 3 shots to the head in enought to kill anyone. 7 is too far and is just taking some kind of perverse pleasure in killing him. probably some under trained officer who was "teaching them muslims a lesson"

also it turns out today that he wasn't wearing a big thick jacket. it was in fact a thin denim jacket. (they called it a jean jaclet on channel 4 news). rememeber when it first happened and everyone said he was asian?