Is Rinoa realley Ultimecia!

[Discord]

How pathetic will it look if we get 100 votes for "no" and none for "yes"

[Slade]

What i dont get is why so many people have a problem with this theory. They go completely anal like its the end of the world! Jees. Personally I think its a great twist

[Christmas]

Its pretty hard to catch out what you are talking about at the current stage of the thread. May I ask for a little summary or a hint?

Haha. Someone actually went to make a summary thread for his theories. Go read it at:

http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=66468

[Rini]

What i dont get is why so many people have a problem with this theory. They go completely anal like its the end of the world! Jees. Personally I think its a great twist

My thoughts exactly.

I don't really think she's Ulti, but it's always nice to speculate while playing the game.
So I answered "no, but have strong doubts" ...not that they are particularily strong, but bleh.

[Mercen-X]

Something that just started bugging me. (sorry if it seems stupid, I haven't played 8 in years).

How can Ultimecia come from the future if she is "trapped" in a timeloop?

Edea takes over Galbadia. Edea is revealed to be possessed by Ultimecia. Ultimecia possesses Rinoa. Ultirinoa frees Adel. Ultimecia . . . disappears for awhile. Adel is defeated and her powers are passed to Rinoa. Eventually, Squall and crew face and defeat Ultimecia. Ultimecia's powers are passed on to Edea via time travel. Then the cycle rebegins.
So where do Ultimecia's true origins lie? Where the hell did she come from?

[Sir Bahamut]

Ultimecia comes from the future she is born in, simple as that. And she's not trapped inside a timeloop. It's just that her rise to power is rooted in what comes across as a loop in time.

A better question would be, for instance, where does the origin of the term "SeeD" come from. Because after all, Squall knows about it because of Edea, but Edea knows about it because of Squall!

[Xaven]

Ultimecia comes from the future she is born in, simple as that. And she's not trapped inside a timeloop. It's just that her rise to power is rooted in what comes across as a loop in time.

A better question would be, for instance, where does the origin of the term "SeeD" come from. Because after all, Squall knows about it because of Edea, but Edea knows about it because of Squall!

Here's what I think about that:

When the game started, time was strolling along normally. Edea came up with the idea for Garden and SeeD's by herself as said by the story. Fast Forward. Squall and friends take out Ulty and Squall gets lost and winds up before the time that the game started. He talks with Edea (known as Matron in that time) and gives her the idea for Garden and SeeD's despite the fact that she would have come up with it by herself a little while later. Gardens are created along with SeeD's even though she got the idea a little earlier than she otherwise would have. Time goes loopy in a time loop.
-The End!

Okay, back on track.

Voted the one before the last one

Me too.

[Squall of SeeD]

He talks with Edea (known as Matron in that time)...

"Edea" is her name. "Matron" was her position at the Orphanage.

[Mercen-X]

Ultimecia comes from the future she is born in, simple as that. And she's not trapped inside a timeloop. It's just that her rise to power is rooted in what comes across as a loop in time.

You say all this like it is suppose to make perfect sense. When does Ultimecia come from the future? Is that her arrival during Squall and crew's final trip through her sanctum sanctorum? Is she just now arriving right there at the end?

[Shoden]

Aeris= Ultimecia you incompitent fool!

[Sir Bahamut]

You say all this like it is suppose to make perfect sense. When does Ultimecia come from the future? Is that her arrival during Squall and crew's final trip through her sanctum sanctorum? Is she just now arriving right there at the end?

It DOES make perfect sense. Look:

Everyone is celebrating defeating Ultimecia right, but then they all go back on with their ordinary lives. Several hundreds of years later, a girl named Ultimecia is born. She becomes a sorceress bent on compressing time. She then uses Junction Machine Ellone to travel back in time, etc. etc. until she is finally defeated. She gives up her powers to Edea in the past and then dies. That's it as far as Ultimecia is concerned.

So I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to ask. Can you please clarify?

[Jessweeee♪]

Well I haven't seen the ending yet (i keep losing my games and memory cards!!!) and don't tell me either what it is...but from what i saw here's my opinion: Ultimecia inherits rinoa's powers through a long line of other sorceresses.

[Sir Bahamut]

That's the jist of it. Of course, there are those who suggest that Rinoa is in fact Ultimecia, but there's isn't much that can back that up to a very plausible level, so generally your take is considered correct.

[The Anarchy Angel]

I haven't a clue, I just let the damn game play. This theory has caused so many arguments, people should just leave it alone and accept their own ending how they want it! sheesh

[* White Aeris *]

i don't know... but it would be quite good if she was.... lets email square!!!! and pressure them for an answer!!!