View Poll Results: Which one of these theories fitīs the storyline best?

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  • Ulti=Julia

    1 2.17%
  • Ulti=Edea

    1 2.17%
  • U=R

    8 17.39%
  • Laguna and Raine were Squallīs fathers.

    36 78.26%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade
    Um, Adel passed her powers on to Rinoa. I'm not sure how you missed that bit...
    Alright dude, that is an example......maybe not such a good example I must admit....sorry for the confusion caused...

    Quote Originally Posted by Laguna
    Adel will need to pass on her powers before being defeated. Rinoa, you be willing to accept them?
    And it is proven here if anyone need reference....
    Last edited by Christmas; 07-24-2005 at 08:51 AM.

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    Unknowns,you are right about what I am trying to do here.
    If you acept R=U knowing it contradict the game script I can also do that.I am also allowed to do that.I am not the only one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar
    Unknowns,you are right about what I am trying to do here.
    If you acept R=U knowing it contradict the game script I can also do that.I am also allowed to do that.I am not the only one.
    I don't see many of us accepting that theory, Future.
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    I refer to those who accept.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Just for conversation an argued point with R=U is that if Rinoa had no one to pass her powers onto then she would not be able to die.
    From what i remeber it was a peaceful death. /shrug
    I think with the r = u theory, the biggest evidence is the meloncolly wussed up rinoa when she forshadows with her friends. This is very self destructing behavior.

    Now if i may ask, future. All of these theories of yours depend on weather or not the whole game was time compressed? This is what i see in squall personally - another example from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squall_Leonheart :

    Squall is the crux of a time loop encompassing the events of Final Fantasy VIII as well as about twelve years prior. Upon defeating Ultimecia, as his comrades are pulled back from time compression into their own respective places in the timeline, Squall takes a detour back to the orphanage, where he encounters Edea. Edea ends up absorbing the dying Ultimecia's powers as part of the cycle of sorceresses (a sorceress must pass on her powers to a successor before she is allowed to die), and wonders aloud about endings and beginnings (dialogue mirroring words to Squall years later, on Disc 3). Squall plants the ideas for Garden and SeeD in her mind, creating a loop in which he must become the leader of Balamb Garden so that he can make it to this point again. Edea correctly guesses who he is, which is why Headmaster Cid knows to turn over leadership of the Garden to him, specifically. As part of his fear of having others rely on him, Squall has a hard time dealing with this for a while.
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    This is what i see as true - a time loop.

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    Raine & Laguna are Squall's parents.

    I might add one thing to the ones already stated.
    Raine's last name is Leonhart.Squall's last name is Leonhart. It can't be just a coincidence, can it?

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    Where do you get that Raineīs last name is Leonhart.We just know her last name is Loire when she getīs married with Laguna.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
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    Flo: 15:30
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    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Gosh, talk about you're national debates lol. How many times have you played ff8 through, Future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squall Isenhart
    Gosh, talk about you're national debates lol. How many times have you played ff8 through, Future.
    He's been playing it for six years and aparantly, almost non-stop. Well, that's what he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar
    Unknowns,you are right about what I am trying to do here.
    If you acept R=U knowing it contradict the game script I can also do that.I am also allowed to do that.I am not the only one.
    I didn't say I accept anything and I didn't even vote. All I can say is that I know your tricks way too well.

    And there is only 4 people currently that accept theories another than Squall is Laguna and Raine's child. The majority do not support the other theories and since this is a poll, this is what the public reflect to you and your theories.

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    Ulti=Edea.This is a lot more difficult to back up than Ulti=Julia,

    I voted for Ulti =Julia.This is the one who is more easy to backup.
    Just five lines for it.
    1-Queens tend to paint herselfs as a symbol of proud.
    2-There is only one picture of a queen on Ultiīs time.Which means Ulti is the first of the dinasty.
    3-Ulti reds dress and must be old or transformed by magic or used a false hair.Never saw Dragon Ball?Their hairs get yellow when they use some powerfull attacks.
    4-Julia is the only important person at the game which dresses red and has black hair
    (i.e is equal to Julia phisically).
    5-There is an organ on Ultiīs castle.This means that the ability to play piano was not lost on her life on WOTC.
    Last edited by Future Esthar; 07-25-2005 at 03:21 PM.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar
    Ulti=Edea.This is a lot more difficult to back up than Ulti=Julia,

    I voted for Ulti =Julia.This is the one who is more easy to backup.
    Just five lines for it.
    1-Queens tend to paint herselfs as a symbol of proud.
    2-There is only one picture of a queen on Ultiīs time.Which means Ulti is the first of the dinasty.
    3-Ulti reds dress and must be old or transformed by magic or used a false hair.Never saw Dragon Ball?Their hairs get yellow when they use some powerfull attacks.
    4-Julia is the only important person at the game which dresses red and has black hair
    (i.e is equal to Julia phisically).
    5-There is an organ on Ultiīs castle.This means that the ability to play piano was not lost on her life on WOTC.
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    Doesn't really matter how convincing your theories are, it is pointless. A poll reflect what the public think of a certain issue. And the poll result is what the the majority reflect, THEY DUN BELIEVE IN ULTI=EDEA, ULTI= JULIA and other stuff and I repeat this is only the majority of the public.

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    laguna and raine could be squalls parents as there is a slight hint to it when you get the ragnorock and accpet the mission from Laguna but then again it could just be that squall's parents knew Laguna and Co.
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    Hello.Since when did the opinions of poople determine what is really happening on a game?

    Continuing with my last post...

    The L+R=S (letīs call it LRS) donīt even had pictures to back it up.

    "Moombas recognize people by licking their blood.Moomba said Laguna after he licks Squallīs blood.It means Squall was Lagunaīs sun"

    This is the best you had to backup LRS.
    But Laguna found some moombas during the game too.
    The moomba who licked Squallīs blood had met Laguna and just tell his name to Squall.
    Did that proof something?No.
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    Squall call Elle sis but we know they werenīt brothers.
    The great relation between Squall and Ellone can also be explaned
    by saying Squall loves Ellone.I donīt believe this was a older sister feeling.Squall is not so coward that he canīt live without Elle prottecting him.It was love. Squall loves her.Donīt remember the special girl thingy that Irvine tells and the knight thing Edea told?
    Do you think it was just the girls who got lonelly and mad?
    Squall is an example of a character who gets mad after Elle left
    and start to calm down due to Rinoa?
    Irvine is another example.But since he remember everything he donīt get mad.Just lonely.

    About the dialog in the Ragnarok,they could as well know Squallīs fathers in the same manner they know Elleīs.
    Maybe Laguna wanna to talk with Squall about his fathers.
    Squall donīt look like Irvine.Irvine is a lonely ladies consuming guy which is allways afraid under pressure.Squall is a corageous hero which turns individualist and is not a ladies consuming guy.
    Selphie is a corageous energic girl with leadership qualities which is not guys consumate.She donīt feels so lonely.She is more like Squall.

    So I would classify the theories by this order

    Julia=Ulti
    Rinoa=Ulti
    LRS
    Ulti=Edea

    Which means the upper ones are the ones who were better backed up by the storyline and lowers are the ones who were worst backed up(in my opinion).
    Last edited by Future Esthar; 07-25-2005 at 04:43 PM.
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    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
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    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar
    Hello.Since when did the opinions of poople determine what is really happening on a game?
    No it dun but it affect this thread since this is a poll thread and the opinions of the people count and they tell you they dun believe in your theories.

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