Pls Spare A Minute To Read This.

[crazybayman]

ahhh......A challenge!!!

[Sir Bahamut]

I should add that if you do not wish to summarise your theories, I will be assuming it is either because you know your theories are bad, or because you are too lost in the myriad of 'ideas' you have that you are simply unable to summarise them all.

[sparkie]

I also see a lot of people contradicting with themselves saying not to post but start to post again.

No it wasn't me! I was possessed by X!!!



Future, you're so cute when you're mad.

LOOK,WHILE YOU PROVE ME WRONG YOU HAVE NO BASIS TO SAY THEY WERE NOT TRUE.I DON´T SAY THEY ARE THRUTH BUT YOU ALSO HAS NO BASE TO SAY IT WAS WRONG OR SILY OR BULSHETT BECAUSE YOU CAN´T PROVE IT.

You don't? Then what's this:

It´s not like I give up.
It´s that I am sick of trying to show you the thruth and get offended.

[crazybayman]

Future, you're so cute when you're mad.

LOOK,WHILE YOU PROVE ME WRONG YOU HAVE NO BASIS TO SAY THEY WERE NOT TRUE.I DON´T SAY THEY ARE THRUTH BUT YOU ALSO HAS NO BASE TO SAY IT WAS WRONG OR SILY OR BULSHETT BECAUSE YOU CAN´T PROVE IT.

You don't? Then what's this:

It´s not like I give up.
It´s that I am sick of trying to show you the thruth and get offended.

oh no!! Now he's mad!!

[Christmas]

Very well then. I will act like as I am possessed by Yu Yevon here and goes back my word.

I should add that if you do not wish to summarise your theories, I will be assuming it is either because you know your theories are bad, or because you are too lost in the myriad of 'ideas' you have that you are simply unable to summarise them all.

He will said his theories can't be summarize and need to be supported by weaker theories which is needed to be support by even weaker theories which will take million of posts...blah,blah,blah...

This is what he alway said but I certainly hope he won't do it this time round and since Random_Lurker can, why can't the theorist himself can?

IF YOU FIND INCONSISTENCIES IT´S BECAUSE YOU DON´T UNDERSTOOD MY THEORIES ON FF8.
I CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND INCONSISTENCIES.IF THERE WERE I GLADLY CHANGE IT.

Look Future, these are the thingies I posted ages ago but you made no reply to them. So I will post them again.

Art galleries don´t need to have pictures related to each other.That´s why they are art.

So then why did you insist the "watchman", "love" and "red clothes" are related to each other?

Julia don´t die.Deling made it look like she was dead but she was not.He uses media to confuse people

You once say she died and got buried in dingo desert then deling came along and revive her with magic now she didn't die?

Do you know realize what you have been doing? You just keep taking back the every words you spoke and replace their after you got rebuttled and this is not the first time you did this.

And no this is not call learning from us,the non open minded(or open minded in a small aspect) and "whatever "members you claimed.

We are here to point out what is wrong and let you realize your mistakes.Unlike what you are doing now, you insisted that your theory must be correct and must be the truth no matter what despite that it is not the only one or two flaws that surfaced. And if someone rebuttled, you just quickly cover up the flaw and claimed that you are learning, but in truth trying to save your own pride.

Your so call seek for truth is just something to turn your theory into a flawless one which is originally full of flaws at the very foundation of the theroy itself. And if the foundation is rotten, no matter how you cover it, it will not prevent people to see the rot. We are not primary school teachers here to correct your compositions so that you can write better next time you know.

And why did he revive her so that she will kill him in the future? ("X" again aren't you?)

In fact Laguna recognizes Edea was Julia but keep it silent(according to his watchman personality).

And how do you know this and I interpret the watchmen differently from yours so you can't use the portrait as proof since there are different interpretations.

This could as well be a fanfiction that tells what the writer intended when he created the story.

I must say you are not FIT to say this statement non anyone than the writer himself or someone that the writer recognized. Do you know that by saying reflect on your arrogant and how you are so full of yourself on your theory when you cannot even prove it and just by all those words you claimed logic supported by nothing then your mouth.

Exactly.But the information at the tutorial is not supposed to be something that the author intended.It represents a summary of the current knowledge people gains in the game.

It is the HISTORY and TRUTH of what is about the game or else it will not appear in there if it is meant to confuse people. The current knowledge gained by the people in the game is what is told by the game itself so it make sense that it is the truth and what the author wanted everyone to know.

Look,their real identities as Propagators shows up when their are possessed.X uses all their potentialities when he possess them.

You said they are propagators just based on the deformed hand of Edea which is caused by the practice of black magic which you admit than later went back on your words once again as usual. And some monsters in the game have deformed body parts too so Edea and gang is related to those monsters? Also the practice of black magic is concrete proof from the Game Guide which Square sell for a living. Do you think Square will post lies inside and take the risks of losing it income when you unreveal the truth?

And if Edea is proven propagator by her hand, then what about the others?

Their sorceress abilities come from the fact that they are Propagators.The transformations we see in the game were parcial though.
If they transform tottally we would see them in the form of Propagators.

No, they are not and this link is the proof:



This link is directly taken from the tutorial and you can't say it is lie as I proved the tutorial is the truth and you are not in the position to claim the tutorial is a lie anyway.

Also we dun see any of them transforming into propagator in the game except from you of course. And since you see what is claim parcial, post a screenshot like you alway rely on graphical details.

There is no real basis to say that(except Ellone which is Rinoa).
With more accuracy I can show you that Quistis and Selphie were sorceresses.

Your so called accuracy is still not valid and the genes is one of the problem that bring down what you call accuracy.

By Edea´s house I mean an area around the house.There is no proof that Sorceress Adel went to that area.So she can´t be Ulti.As I said Ulti´s time was on the past,not the future.

And you can't say Adel didn't go there either. There are a lot of questions like this which you can't say is right and wrong so this can't be used as a point and along with several and I can point out that there might be other sorceress hiding in the world as stated below:

2a-X is the responsible for every Lunar Cry.The Lunar cry is needed for Time Compression to succeed.
2b-Since Ulti was on the master room she don´t get buried.Only the lower parts of the castle were buried

Once again I will say this is really "stories" to me since I can also say I am responsible for every Lunar cry and I am the one behind all this plot. Every tiny little things that you found hard to cover, you shifted them to "X" which I claimed to be Hyne/Yu Yevon.

Instead of being a dinasty of Centra kings they all were get to an orphanage on Ulti´s time
Exactly.Which means Edea was a queen over Centra before the Lunar cry.

Once again, there is no telling how the Centra is ruled as told in the game with a link provided to support it not to say Edea is a queen too that is since I claimed myself as the Emperess of the Centra Empire.
Anyone want to be my subjects?

Exactly.But I am also serious in trying to find the thruth.

You dun seem to be seeking the truth but making a flawless "theory" by "amending" it each time people rebuttled.

Oh yeah.Sure they can´t proof it.But they can proof it´s possible.Otherwise show me wrong.

You were the one that say you no need proof for theories and once again you want people to prove it to you? Just how many time you just eat back your words? Aren't you afraid you might get unbalanced digestion for such an unhealthy diet? And we did show prove which you just claim they are lies or just quickly took back your words like now. But even we can't proof it, you cannot proof it possible either.
There is not only wrong or right in this world like black and white. There is alway a grey spot in the middle.

And why my theory is impossible?.Show me why.If you tell it it´s because you know why.
Just give-me a little example.You don´t need to comment it all.

By all the points I pointed up from your first threads to this one and several unanswered questions you claimed you have answered.
if you want more of my example, go search my posts on your thread.

I am really sure that almost all of my theories were thruth.It´s not the case that I know they are not true.Really.
I am not the type of person who would present theories which I know aren´t thruth just to irritate people.
In fact I did this with a few of them but just a little few.But it was not to irritate people.In fact it was the opposite

Truth need to be proven and supported with facts and proofs especially with those that came from the game itself which you claimed they are lying which your theories dun except for those rumblings that you made which is just what you think is logicial and supported with nothing rather than your words.And once again you are also not FIT to make such a statement unless Square recognize it as the TRUTH or this is just your pure deduction.

No fan-based theory is truth unless proven so pls dun be so full of yourself and you do know that it us that point out your flaws which you secretly went to cover it up and claimed credit for yourself.

(the truth would irritate the people)

That is why you refuse to accept the truth and create a dream world for yourself which you claimed to be the truth

Squall don´t remember everything at once.He remember as long as time passes.One time he remembers this,then on another time that,etc...
He just have the flashback of the master room when he approaches it.

When is this happening and how come no one knew it except the bearer of truth that is you. And we dun see any flashback when a Squall approach the master room.

X just needs to seal Ellone´s powers.He don´t need do destroy her

Like I repeat myself which you left answered as usual for some mysterious reasons :Like the game say, she is NEEDED for TIME COMPRESSION and not sealed

They DO look alike.
The first sorceress not only dress blue but has long black hair and seems young.
The second sorceress dresses a cloth with different colors but they are all in the yellow tonality.Also the sorceress seems older,experienced and mature like Quistis which is an instructor.The third sorceress is the one which is more difficult to see the similarities.This happens because she is near her Propagator form.Look at her arms and you will see similarities with the propagator ones.I will come back to this one.The fourth one is Ulti which I theorized that she was Edea.I will try to show evidence of that with time.

FOR ALL GAMERS OUT THERE, FRANKLY SPEAKING, DO ANYONE THINK THE RANDOM SORCERESS THAT YOU FOUGHT DURING TIME COMPRESSION LOOK ANYWHERE ALIKE TO RINOA, QUISTIS AND SELPHIE????

A sorceress can appear many times.But it doesn´t mean they were different sorceresses.Since they are equal they should be the same.
Basically X possessed these sorceresses while the Pandora time travels to kick SeeD ass.

And who told you this? A fairy godmother or the seven dwarfs? If the same sorceress can appear many time, why didn't Adel just keep coming back instead of those freaks? And for your info they are not equal.

Don´t get confused,please.What I said was not a part of game´s walkthrough but a theory of mine on what really happens.

Once again, you still can't claim it to be truth oh mightly one and this is no theory at least from my POV. Wonder why ppl take the effort to write the walkthrough only to be ruined by you.

And Xaven's eyes genetic and my hair genetics dun apply and you avoided the questions once again for some unknown reason.

And for U=J, I dun wish to repeat myself that your portrait thingy can't prove a thing.

I PROMISE I WILL NOT IGNORE YOUR POSTS NOW.I SWEAR

So you finally willing to admit you ignore our posts which you claim you didn't earlier on.

EDIT: Future said let the whole matter rest so this post can be ignored.

[Future Esthar]

I PROMISE I WILL NOT IGNORE YOUR POSTS NOW.I SWEAR

This appears on the context of this thread only related to the theories on the first post.I said I will not ignore the posts in which you try to show that they were inconsistent with the game.This is not the same thing as to say that they don´t appear on the game or to say they cant be proofed.
Inconsistent means "which deny or replace the events on the game making them impossible to cohexist with it"

An example of a theory consistent with the game which don´t appears on the game and that can´t be proofed:
When Squall goes to the white seed ship Edea found a fish on the sea and yelled to Cid-What a beautiful blue fish.

My theories were like this but on my case I try to extrapulate information using some hints based on graphical details,events and script.
In the example above there we see a theory which has no hints on the game.

An example of a theory inconsistent with the game:
After Squall and company got to Edea´s house on the third disc
she says-I was possessed by Sephiroth which tries to summon Meteor on the Earth.
And then Squall get out of her house and went to Lunatic Pandora on the Ragnarok.

Unknowns,since your questions were not about inconsistencies but proofs I am not forced to reply to them because this was not what I promised.

So I will ignore your questions NOW and I will respond LATER.

Sir Bahamut,the poster already described my theories.
I will not change them,seriously.

[Sir Bahamut]

Allright, then one last attempt. But I want to make it clear that if you ignore even a single point of my posts, I'll ignore you until you go back and comment on everything. If you still ignore one or more points, I will assume you are unable to defend your theories and stop debating at once. Anyway:

An unknown villian named "X" controlled the FF VIII cast and make them ruled over Galbadia from Timber.

Firstly, let's cut the crap here. You PMd me saying "X" is Doc Odine, so let's stop saying X and saying Odine, ok?

Secondly, we don't know anything about the past leaders of Galbadia or Timber, so unless you have a very good argument to show this, it will have to be dismissed. You can't make assumptions based on nothing, after all.

Thirdly, what on earth makes you think Odine is evil all powerful villain?

"X" is the responsible for every Lunar Cry.The Lunar cry is needed for Time Compression to succeed

The game tells us that it the Lunar Cry is something that happens periodically, and can also be summoned using the Crystal Pillar(a huge rock from the moon). The latter is confirmed when the Lunar Cry is summoned using the Crystal Pillar in disc 3. So I have to ask you what makes you think that Odine is actually causing this phenomenon. Again, if you have no argument, this will be dismissed.

Rinoa, a girl with special power sent the consious of the people to the past and let them see some unpleasants events or stuff regarding Hyne.

EDIT: The issue of Ellone being Rinoa is treated further down.

Our heros were a dynasty of kings ruling Centra.(........)

Previously you said that the heroes were ruling Timber and Galbadia. Now they ruled Esthar as well? And how can Squall and Co form a 'dynasty of kings' when that would firstly require them all to be men(which they obviously aren't), and secondly require them to be each others sons.

This point makes no sense and contradicts a previous point. Please clarify, or both points will be dismissed.

Laguna´s name was Vascaroon.Vascaroon,Kyros and Ward were guardians of the Centra castle at Ulti´s time.

Vascaroon lived near the beginning of mankind itself. Judging by the technology of the era we play in, this was thousands of years ago. Lagunas age is given in the tutorial, and it is not 5768 or whatever.
Are you saying that Vascaroon was immortal, and kept on going until in our time he changed his name to Laguna? If so, provide an argument, or this will be dismissed.

Now, Ultimecias time is hundreds of years ahead of the game we play. If Laguna is an immortal Vascaroon(which I repeat you must provide an argument for), he could live then. But for Kiros and Ward to be there too, they'd have to either have an extended lifespan, or be immortal as well. Both options will need an argument, or this will be dismissed.

Oh, and there is no Centra Castles in Ultimecias time. The Centra were wiped out hundreds of years before Ultimecias era. That is that the game tells us. If you believe the game is mistaken, please provide an argument, or this will be dismissed.

Vascaroon fell in love for Ulti which is still Edea by that time?.

You'll have to give an argument for Vascaroons existence before fleshing out his life.

Rinoa try to find Squall at the flower field because she fell in love with him.

Yes. This is rather obvious though, don't you think?

[Odine] is afraid so he used time compression to warp every characters of different time and age to the very same time with the very same age which is the world of FF VIII also called "Well Organized Time Compression" (WOTC) by Future Esthar.

The world of FF8 is NOT a time compressed world. It is stated more than once that only Ultimecia can live in a time compressed world, which means we couldn't possibly be playing the game to begin with.

The characters don't know that they have been warped from their time each given a specific role in life arranged by [Odine] and they are actually propagators in human forms.

Firstly, as mentioned, time compression is never completed, and it doesn't merely put people in different eras. It compresses all of time into a single event, making normal progress through time. You'd be frozen in time. So this point is flawed right from the start.

Secondly, what makes you think the characters are Propagators? If you do not provide an argument, this will be dismissed.

The family line of the characters goes like this:

Edea + Seifer = Rinoa
Rinoa + Squall = Quistis
Quistis + Zell = Selphie

And Selphie will marry Irvine in the future.

Of all these, only the point that Selphie and Irvine marry holds any validity whatsoever. The others don't make sense since they're all the same age(except Edea, but this doesn't matter). As explained before, you cannot use time compression to argue that they were all brought together to one era.

Oh, and please provide an argument behind each branch of the family tree, or all will be dismissed.

Rinoa is adopted by Caraway and his wife Julia.

This isn't all that important, but what makes you think this? There is no reason to believe they didn't have the baby the normal way.

Caraway then murdered his wife Julia and send Rinoa to Winhill.
Julia survived which was captured by Deling which turned her to Edea.
Edea who is possessed by [Odine], Edea time travelled to the past and married Cid where they set up the orphanage together.

1) Provide an argument as to why you believe Caraway killed Julia. If not, this will be dismissed.
2) Provide an argument to back up your belief that Delin was capable of turning people into other people, and then an argument as to why he would do this to Julia.
3) Show how it would be possible for Edea to travel to the past when there are no existing time machines in FF8.
4) I thought you believed Julia was Ultimecia. Please choose one or the other, and make subsequent alterings of your theories.

*It is told by Future that both Deling & Caraway are actually*
monsters possessed by [Odine].

Please provide an argument as to why you believe this.

Rinoa is adopted by a family in Winhill which is later killed by Esthar soldiers.
Her name is changed to Ellone and this point of time.
Ellone met Laguna and Raine.

Please provide an argument behind why you believe Rinoa was adopted in Winhill and why she changed her name.

Also, we see Rinoa and Ellone standing next to eachother in the game. If Ellone is Rinoa, who is the Rinoa we see in the game?

Ellone is later send to the orphanage and Edea took care of her.
Ellone met Squall in the orphanage where they fell in love.

Squall is always referring to Ellone as his sister, so are you suggesting some sort of incest thing going on? Furhtermore, they were both small children, who aren't really capable of falling in love anyway. This point needs clarification.

Edea then send Ellone to the White SeeD ship when Caraway recaptured her.

Do you mean to say that Caraway knew that Edea was Julia, his wife, and that he wanted her back? This point needs clarification.

Edea masterminded everything.

I though Odine was masterminding everything. Please choose one or the other, and make subsequent alterations.

Caraway used the Junction Machine Ellone he obtained from Odine and clone a fake Ellone and send her back to the White SeeD ship. Ellone is then once again called Rinoa after Caraway locked her in a room to prevent her from using her power.

Firstly, are you suggesting that the Junction Machine Ellone can clone people? If so, please provide an argument or this will be dismissed.

Secondly; so are you saying that the Ellone who was adopted in Winhill went back to being Rinoa as Caraways daughter, to have the clone Ellone replace her in Winhill? This point needs clarification.

Thirdly, please provide an argument behind all of these points, or they will all be dismissed.

Watts and Zone which is said by Future as Ward and Laguna in disguise rescued her.

Rescued who? The clone or Rinoa(who was apparently being locked up by Caraway). This point needs both clarification and an argument.

Edea try to scan Squall and CO's memories in the desert prision to possess them but failed.

Firstly, WHY?

Secondly, it is never implied that Edea can possess anyone. If you mean that Ultimecia is going to possess them, it is also implied that she can only possess sorceresses. This point needs clarification.

Edea stopped everyone from sleeping in Balamb when she took over so as to stop Ellone/Rinoa from sending the consious of the people to the past so that they won't know what happened in the orphanage.

Firstly, what do you mean about everyone sleeping?

Secondly, why was Edea so keen about not letting anyone find out that they went to the same Orphanage. This points needs clarification and an argument.

[Odine] who masterminded everything is out for a hunt for Ellone so as to seal her power.

As Random Lurker pointed out, do you mean the clone Ellone or Ellone/Rinoa? Furthermore, why does Odine want to seal Ellones powers?

When Squall & Co defeated Adel, they were time travelled to the past using the Lunatic Pandora which the Galbadians masterminded.

They found Ultimecia's castle in the past which is Edea's house after being transformed.

The Lunatic Pandora is not a time travelling device. Furhtermore, Ultimecias era is in the future, not the past. This is made quite clear in the game. If you believe otherwise, please provide an argument.

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Satisfied, Future? As you can see, you are quite inconsistent with your theories. If you cannot answer every single one of my points here, I'll stop. Remember that.

PS: Yes, I realise how stupid I am for doing this =P

[Christmas]

Firstly, let's cut the crap here. You PMd me saying "X" is Doc Odine, so let's stop saying X and saying Odine, ok?

Aren't this supposed to be a secret?....Oh well....

[Sir Bahamut]

There's no reason why it should be kept a secret, and since it's an essential part of Futures theory, you cannot deal with his theories without dealing with "X".

[Christmas]

I dun know what he PM you about, but when he PM me, he stressed the importance of keeping this a secret and not breaking the trust he place on me.

I dun really know what so important about this but I treat it as a form of respect to uphold the promise I gave to him even though like you said:

There's no reason why it should be kept a secret, and since it's an essential part of Futures theory, you cannot deal with his theories without dealing with "X".

I did suggest to him that he reveal it himself but he said give him some time. NVM now, what done cannot be undone. Let's hope he dun mind.

[Future Esthar]

You found no inconsistencies on my theory.
I think I already explained the difference between a consistent theory and a proofed theory but you don´t understood.
By the way,how can X be Odine?What a stupid crazy theory.He has no real power.(I will kill my brother).

Well,I will myself show the consistencies.

An unknown villian named "X" controlled the FF VIII cast and make them ruled over Galbadia from Timber.

This happened before WOTC.That´s why it doesn´t appear on the game.
There were few things happening before WOTC which also appears on the game.Very little few.

"X" is the responsible for every Lunar Cry.The Lunar cry is needed for Time Compression to succeed

.

This happens within WOTC.
Nothing on the game contradicts the possibility of Lunar cry being artificial.The Lunar cry was not entirely understood after all.

Rinoa, a girl with special power sent the consious of the people to the past and let them see some unpleasants events or stuff regarding Hyne.

Who says Rinoa needs to sleep to use her ability?
It is not suggested that she can´t use it while she performs a normal task so it don´t contradict what we saw on the game.I will also show this on the analysis of other posts relating to her(the ones that explains how she can be Ellone).

Our heros were a dynasty of kings ruling Centra.(........)

This happened before WOTC and we can not saw it on the game.Hence it is consistent.

Laguna´s name was Vascaroon.Vascaroon,Kyros and Ward were guardians of the Centra castle at Ulti´s time.

Happened before WOTC

Vascaroon fell in love for Ulti which is still Edea by that time?.

And this also.

Rinoa try to find Squall at the flower field because she fell in love with him.

This was one of the things happening before WOTC that also appears on the game.

X is afraid so he used time compression to warp every characters of different time and age to the very same time with the very same age which is the world of FF VIII also called "Well Organized Time Compression" (WOTC) by Future Esthar.

There is nothing on the game suggesting that the world of FF8 is not WOTC nor that people dye on Time Compression.
And the word of Ultimecia is not valid.Hence this theory is consistent.

Secondly, what makes you think the characters are Propagators? If you do not provide an argument, this will be dismissed.

Squall and Rinoa fought the Propagators inside WOTC.So it´s plausable that they can fight with themselves.Because it´s WOTC.And on WOTC it can happen.

The family line of the characters goes like this:

Edea + Seifer = Rinoa
Rinoa + Squall = Quistis
Quistis + Zell = Selphie

And Selphie will marry Irvine in the future.

Already explained why this can be consistent.

Rinoa is adopted by Caraway and his wife Julia.

Random_Lurker make a mistake.Rinoa is Julia´s daughter.
But not from Caraway.

There is nothing suggesting it is.Rinoa call him father because she don´t knows she is adopted.There was nothing on the game contradicting it.Hence,this is not inconsistent.

Caraway then murdered his wife Julia and send Rinoa to Winhill.
Julia survived which was captured by Deling which turned her to Edea.
Edea who is possessed by X, Edea time travelled to the past and married Cid where they set up the orphanage together.

Look,many of the things said here were events that the game don´t show.The game don´t show Julia dying neither.And there is no way to say there were not time machines on FF8.There were a whole bunch of them.So,this theory is not inconsistent.

*It is told by Future that both Deling & Caraway are actually*
monsters possessed by X.

Looking at the game we can´t say that they weren´t.So it is consistent.

Rinoa is adopted by a family in Winhill which is later killed by Esthar soldiers.
Her name is changed to Ellone and this point of time.
Ellone met Laguna and Raine.

Correction:Ellone was allways named Ellone.Another mistake of Lurker.
We don´t see the "parents" on Winhill giving birth to her .We don´t ever saw her "parents".So it is consistent.

Ellone is later send to the orphanage and Edea took care of her.
Ellone met Squall in the orphanage where they fell in love.

Ellone is not Squall´s sister not even knowing LRS is right.

Squall and Ellione were too little soo they don´t knew they were in love.
They were too little to understand.So the theory can be consistent.

Edea then send Ellone to the White SeeD ship when Caraway recaptured her.

No one tells us what is happening after Ellone goes to the ship.
So no one can say it is inconsistent.

Caraway used the Junction Machine Ellone he obtained from Odine and clone a fake Ellone and send her back to the White SeeD ship. Ellone is then once again called Rinoa after Caraway locked her in a room to prevent her from using her power.

Again,this weren´t events we saw on the game.The game don´t really show us what happens here so this could be consistent.
I mean that Caraway transformed the machine at Ellone´s image.

And yes,Caraway replace Rinoa with the machine Ellone.

Edea try to scan Squall and CO's memories in the desert prision to possess them but failed.

We see a machine that sends currents through Squall´s body.
And some kind of TV set.Seifer don´t knows what is happening and everyone but Edea and the guards thought this was just a machine for torture.So there is no way we say there is an inconsistency here.
And X can possess our heros as long as they lose all their memory.

Edea stopped everyone from sleeping in Balamb when she took over so as to stop Ellone/Rinoa from sending the consious of the people to the past so that they won't know what happened in the orphanage.

X motivations can not be seen on the game.This make this theory not inconsistent.

X who masterminded everything is out for a hunt for Ellone so as to seal her power.

Ulti made it look through Edea that she was looking for Elle to achieve Time Compression.This could be a lie since she is a villain.This is not inconsistent on any way because there is no evidence on the game that she looks for Elle to perform TC.

When Squall & Co defeated Adel, they were time travelled to the past using the Lunatic Pandora which the Galbadians masterminded.

They found Ultimecia's castle in the past which is Edea's house after being transformed.

This is the reason why I can say there is no evidence that Ulti look for Ellone to achieve TC.
It´s because TC don´t really start after Squall and company defeated Adel.It was the Galbadians who activated an holographic film while they fall.And then the Pandora itself time traveled (on a normal manner).This don´t contradict what we see in the game because there was no way to tell if there was a film or not.

As you saw I showed that my theories weren´t inconsistent with the game.Some of them don´t appear on the game.Others constitute a different interpretation of the events we see(like the last one and the one about the scanning machine) but I think none of them can be proofed.

[Skyblade]

Future Esthar, unlike Sir Bahamut (who's post was excellent, well reasoned, and pretty much everything that yours was not), I am not going to sit here and inform you of the stupidity of your theories. That has been done countless times, and has not seemed to do a thing except exhaust the fingers of the one who has being informing you. Instead, I will point out a few pieces of information that involve theories in generally, add a little advice as to how they pertain to you in particular, and suggest you start thinking about these points.

First, an inconsistent theory is false. If a theory is not consistent with either itself or the game (and Sir Bahamut pointed out that yours was consistent with neither), it can not be an accurate theory.

Second, a consistent theory is not necessarily an accurate theory. Even if your theories were consistent, if there is absolutely no evidence in the game supporting them, chances are that they are not correct. Consistency is required to have an accurate theory, but it is not enough to prove accuracy.

Third, do not keep secrets about your theories, since all they will do is make people even more skeptical about them.

Fourth, do not let your brother use your account. Actually, I doubt that you did, because the sheer number of people (including myself) who were told that Odine was X means that you must have been totally ignoring an entire thread while your brother spread lies about your theories. This is also another reason not to keep secrets about your theories.

Fifth, arguing that everything in your theory happened outside of the game is total bull$#!+. I could make up a theory that Hyne was actually the Card Queen, and you can't disprove it because Hyne disguised himself as the Card Queen before the game starts. What's more, the information that the game has about the time before the game starts clearly indicates that your theories are inaccurate. Unfortunately for you, you are not in the U.S. court system right now, and your theories are not "innocent until proven guilty". As you are presenting theories about the game, the burden of proof lies with you. You have to give in game evidence that your theories have some validity if you expect them to be believed.

[Sir Bahamut]

Future Esthar:

I see that you have, by failing to come up with a single argument to any of your points, completely ignored my entire post. As such, I'll be assuming this is because you are unable to find any arguments to your theory, because there aren't any to begin with. So unless you will, in your next post, go back over my post again and come with arguments to all the points, your entire theory is dismissed.

Skyblades post summed up very nicely why arguments are so important. If you have a problem with my decision to ignore your further posts until you come with arguments, please respond to his post.

[Future Esthar]

I already do what I promised.

I CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND INCONSISTENCIES.IF THERE WERE I GLADLY CHANGE IT.
I PROMISE I WILL NOT IGNORE YOUR POSTS NOW.I SWEAR
BUT PLEASE POST A FEW AT A TIME SO I DON´T GET LOST

My promise refers only to the first line which is about inconsistencies.
As you saw I tried to show that my theories were consistent.
You don´t show they were inconsistent (go see my definition of inconsistency few posts ago).
So I go far as to keep my promise.
That´s just it.
Good afternoon.

[Sir Bahamut]

So in other words, you cannot provide any arguments to back up your theories, which in turn means your theories are simply not valid.

*shrugs*

That's fine with me in any case.