Me first.Originally Posted by Behold the Void
THERE IS NOTHING TO ARGUE ABOUT. AFRICA SUCKS.
Seriously, they're going nowhere, all of our help (I threw a half a stick of gum their way and they didn't do anything) isn't helping, and the rest of the world hates America because we're not doing anything.
Africans should get off their lazy ass and help themselves.
Me first.
THERE IS NOTHING TO ARGUE ABOUT. AFRICA SUCKS.
Seriously, they're going nowhere, all of our help (I threw a half a stick of gum their way and they didn't do anything) isn't helping, and the rest of the world hates America because we're not doing anything.
Africans should get off their lazy ass and help themselves.
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I hope your not serious. I am not at all claiming to be an expert on these things, but I think that if Africa could do that, it would have alreadyMe first.
THERE IS NOTHING TO ARGUE ABOUT. AFRICA SUCKS.
Seriously, they're going nowhere, all of our help (I threw a half a stick of gum their way and they didn't do anything) isn't helping, and the rest of the world hates America because we're not doing anything.
Africans should get off their lazy ass and help themselves.
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Wow, this thread is discusting...no not the topic, but rather some of the posts in it.
Behold the Void pretty much said what I would of said if he hadn't already said it (and then some). You can talk about the world's problems all day and it won't solve a damn thing. Also you can't expect world hunger to dissapear overnight...Africa has so much damage, I guess you could call it, that's developed from them lagging so far behind the rest of the world in terms of development. I really don't like to think about it...I know that's screwed up of me, but it's just depressing, especially when I turn on the TV and they announce that the new Harry Potter movie or whatever else made some odd hundreds of millions of dollars...we'll spend all that money to sit on our asses for a couple hours of screen staring that may or may not be entertaining, but we won't put that money into things like Africa...sad, it is. But then, I'm doing the same thing, so who am I to bitch at the rest of the world and how cruel and careless they are? Nobody.
Life is sad, and I see little to no hope for fixing Africa's horrors...I think disease and starvation are going to wipe them out really...it sucks, and I know it sounds really pessimistic of me, but I also don't agree with "oh well it can't be helped so who gives a crap lets ignore it". Africa needs to work to help themselves, yes, but I think that's exactly where they need help the most: to start helping themselves.
I like Kung-Fu.
The only way for them to start helping themselves is 2 things.
1) They need to change their social way of thinking. That is probably one of the hardest things to do. Sure it has been done in other countries but it was more or less through mutual economic gain and a willingness to want to work with each other. Africa hasto offer everyone else and is ignorant as hell.
2) Attempt to educate them so they are not ignorant as hell. Once again very hard to do given how their society works.
Of course I agree with TK as it has been basically what I have been saying all along. I am willing to offer them help but first the leaders of those countries need to want to help their country out by acting on education first and their social problems first. But the leaders don't care and anyone who has taken power to become the leader doesn't care.
Why, I'm perfectly serious. Africans have not done anything themselves, basically. We've tried to help, but it's failed. It will get just exactly what it deserves.
Indeed it is. Food reserves are such a nice thing.it's their fault they will starve tonight.
I'll tell you this - even if aliens suddenly killed 10 million Americans, destroyed all the fields and meat-farms, and took away everyone's money - America would still recover within a relatively short period of time. Why? Because they want to recover. They want to lead on better lives, to look for something in the future. This is true not only for Americans, but many others... many, that aren't struck by a severe case of apathy. Africa's situation is so dire, that they no longer care whether they die or not. They don't care whether they eat or not. Otherwise, they would've taken immediate acts to improve their situation... and, really, the agricultural rising of human-kind happened some 8,000-10,000 years ago. It's not high-tech to grow some food... and now-a-days, it's not really high-tech to grow food for millions. India keeps its citizens moslty fed, and so does China. Both have way more people than all of Africa's countries put together.
Africa doesn't need more aid. It needs to get off its apathetical arse, take the good money sent to it by the good nations of the world (Nations which also include America, which you speak such ill of), and use some common sense and knowledge in agriculture, and put all those into some good use.
It's like having a depressed kid sitting in the corner, not wanting to eat. You give him money, and tell him to go buy food. He doesn't want to, and burns the money with his lighter. Would throwing more money at him make any difference? He needs to get off his sorry ass and start doing it for himself. Same goes for Africa.
When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one yourself... when gazing into the abyss, bear in mind that the abyss also gazes into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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You couldn't have put it any better.
Don't like like that! There's always place for improvement - we should always strive for more!You couldn't have put it any better.
Next thing you'll know, you'll starve! :P
When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one yourself... when gazing into the abyss, bear in mind that the abyss also gazes into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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and yes the great depression. what america did there...... withdrew german loans. so the people starved and looked for a strong leader. go america! look out for yourself screw the repurcusions! and america topok out massive massive loans during the depression. and some war or other sorted out the economy.
Please tell me you just made that up. If you learnt it from a teacher, I'd like to know who it is so that I can take action to get them fired, and if you learnt it from a textbook I would like to have it removed from the curriculum."
no didn't make that up. the withdrawl of german loans by america during the great depression made the depression far worse. thus people got all miserable about this and decided what they needed was a strong leader to fix out all this bad stuff happening to them. the same thing had happened during the hyperinflation. look at the votes for the nazis during these periods and the periods in between. it goes up, down, up, nazis take over.
the individual has done nothing to cause this. the everyday african farmer doesn't deserve this. in fact the countries don't really deserve it as they are mostly made up of everyday african people. it's not their fault it is their government and can we justify letting people suffer for their government?
and in defence of my comment. it was to a man who had just said he didn't care if 3 million people starved to death.
I don't care if 3 million people who don't do anything about their situation starve to death. You didn't pay attention to me as you only see your side.
EDIT: OOOOOOH MAN! I had not even read your mispreception of the Great Depression. Did American withdraw loans from ALL europian countries? Yes. Why? 11,000 out of 25,000 banks closed and went out of buisness. Time worry about #1.
What countries were affect the most? Britian and Germany who owed the most. It didn't really mess Britian up that much but only made Germany far worse.
Why was Germany in so bad of a situation? Europe was forcing them to pay for everything from the war.
So I see how it works. Europe demands germany pay for everything and American banks allow them to take out loans to pay the insane demand and when America all of a sudden can't deal with the crap Europe started due to their own problems they are to blame once again?
You are just messed up with your hate towards America.
Last edited by edczxcvbnm; 07-26-2005 at 06:50 PM.
so tell me what the starving children of niger should do today?
milf you say you wouldn't believe you deserve food. we do. it's in human rights. we all deserve the right to life. no food = no life. it is something deserved by being human.
"The sad thing is this, Cloud No. 9 was just expressing concern for Niger. Is she idealistic? Maybe. Is she wrong?" a small point that i am actually male.
my comments about the aids vaccine thingy before were actually a great deal about africa.
i don't think it is for others to make decisions that harm others. or rather to not make any decision and sit back as the biggest genocide takes place. it was not our choice to let the nazis destroy the jewish race. it should not be out choice to let the african continent be destroyed in the same way.
"It will get just exactly what it deserves." i'm sorry but i will probably get banned for this. but meh. it needs to be said before anyone snips it. hachifusa you are a sad, sad, greedy man. 30,000 children deserve to die a day? 3 million people in niger deserve to be starving right now? did the jews deserve to? they never helped themsleves so slaughtering them was cool was it? no need to help the jews they aren't doing it themselves. exactly what it deserves? maybe that sentence will come back to haunt you, maybe you or your country will get exactly what is wished upon it.
"They don't care whether they eat or not." i think you'll find if you handed a kid in niger food today then he would be quite grateful of it. hand it to a mother in sudan and she will care.
Mr. MILF didn't say they didn't deserve food, you're twisting his words. He said that they need to help themselves first, as if you send them food, do you really think it'd go to the kids?
actually he did "I said I wouldn't believe I deserved help."
and if he actually were on the ground helping these people then we could gurantee that the food went to the kids. instead of just performing a bank transfer to the nearest government.
We can't take the people off their Governments hand's and expect things to get better. That's asinine. Deal with the corrupt Government first, then help out the people.
Although, I have to admit to being completely apathetic when it comes to other countries. Not to say they don't matter, just saying that it's the American way to have absolutely NO concern about what goes on overseas. Or, maybe I should say it was the American way.
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