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    so what to do then? it's inhuman and unthinkable to let these people starve, i personally would have no objection to removing the governments of many of these countries but most people would seem to, the people in their current state would be un-able to revolt or make a difference.

    so what is left? just to support them through long and short term aid until the people can stand on their own two feet?

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    You should invade them like Bush invaded Iraq. That'll change things for the better.

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    maybe not in the same way he manipulated stuff for iraq. but a straigh up "mugabwe sucks so much ass he needsa good hiding" and that would be fine.

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    It'd be a lot easier just to assassinate him rather than expend huge amounts of military manpower.The problem would be in installing a force before the country slid into total anarchy.

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    back to niger.

    people say the money doesn't go where the want?

    what about the tsunami appeal? that was raised by the dec. the same is being done with niger. it's not like we haven't trusted them before. and the lived up to that with what they have done over there. people just seem not to care about africa anymore. and that's just sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
    back to niger.

    people say the money doesn't go where the want?

    what about the tsunami appeal? that was raised by the dec. the same is being done with niger. it's not like we haven't trusted them before. and the lived up to that with what they have done over there. people just seem not to care about africa anymore. and that's just sad.
    There are two huge differences between Africa and the region affected by the tsunami.
    1) The tsunami was a massive, sudden natural disaster, whereas Africa is in a continuous state of decay. When so many lives are lost and so much property is destroyed, it's almost common sense that people are going to want to rebuild immediately. That's why a short-term monetary solution was effective.
    2) The countries that were hit by the tsunami were, for the most part, not governed by corrupt despots.
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    Going right back to the start:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
    niger is in a pretty poor state right now. 3 million people are starving. a third of it's poplation. and why? a locut plague then a drought. so they have a famine right now? is this new news? no. the un were told in october it was going to happen. but noone bothered. ignored it. so 3 weeks after the g8. billions of people watched live 8. a quarter of a million people marched in edinburgh. when we were promised we could make a difference. things could change. they would change. we would end starvation and poverty, 3 weeks after that yet again we watch africans starve on our tv.

    why?
    Don't you remember several of us here were saying exactly that the G8 would be inneffective and their methods, aside from opening trade, are flawed?

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    i think that the g8 basicly failed in it's human duty.

    docfrance the question was about charity. when it's asia the charities are good. but in africa they are bad. but they are the same charities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
    docfrance the question was about charity. when it's asia the charities are good. but in africa they are bad. but they are the same charities.
    Yes, and that's because of the reasons I listed. Go back and read my post again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
    i think that the g8 basicly failed in it's human duty.
    Sorry, I was tired, I meant to say 'G8 and Live8'.

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    but they didn't open trade.

    and this crisis emerged before this. it was in october. when the world was warned that millions could starve to death. and they were ignored.

    and also as a repercusion of this a military dictatorship has been set up in maritinia (i spelt it wrong i know).

    people said these folks should do something about the starvation. oh look they have. a lovely little dictatorship which like 99% of all military dictatorships will end in genocide. what a great idea ignoring the third world is.

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    a hand to help pull someone back to their feet is definatly in order, but you can't pull someone back up unless they use their feet to stand. the problem sometimes is the fact that these people don't know any other way of life than the one they are living. sometimes its not our fault that a country ends up the way it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
    but they didn't open trade.

    and this crisis emerged before this. it was in october. when the world was warned that millions could starve to death. and they were ignored.

    and also as a repercusion of this a military dictatorship has been set up in maritinia (i spelt it wrong i know).

    people said these folks should do something about the starvation. oh look they have. a lovely little dictatorship which like 99% of all military dictatorships will end in genocide. what a great idea ignoring the third world is.
    That would be up to the people of Mauritania to worry about who is in charge of them. Unless, of course, you support the war in Iraq.

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    "sometimes its not our fault that a country ends up the way it is." when a country comes to the un and begs for support when a famine is starting it is our fault for ignoring that plea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
    "sometimes its not our fault that a country ends up the way it is." when a country comes to the un and begs for support when a famine is starting it is our fault for ignoring that plea.
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