aid must come in two forms. short term disaster aid like the kind we gave in asia after boxing day and the kind we gave to ethiopia and the kind we should give to niger. people shouldn't live on this.

thre is long term aid which is schools and hospitals and wells and farming equipment to get things up and running.

but with all this must come one thing. reform. not their reform. ours. debt, subisidies and tarriffs if these are left in place even without disaster and famine these places don't stand a chance as long as we continue to destroy their farms, businesses and economy.

"The food stocks in England ARE IN CASE DISASTER STRIKES ENGLAND." this is because i was refering not to food stocks but to the aid allowances which come in the form of money not food which is then converted into food or whatever is needed. it;'s what we donated to asia. and it comes out of 0.7% of the country's income.

find me any country with higher levels of obesity than america. i think you will find you are wrong.

and my point about medicority was in reply to "no these countries have reserves for not feeding their already overweight population but to aid other countries in times of disaster.


OH NOES!!!1 NOT PROSPERITY!" which seemed to me to link prosperiety with the growing waist lines of western countries.

milf you forget that we are obliged to end genocide when it occours. starvation was genocide in warsaw. it is genocide in africa. the difference is is that we are causing it.

lionx we are not talking about surrendering possesions we are talking about saving millions from starvation. something which our governments have money set aside for. money which even if it went over that we have plenty of. it would not bother us to save these people. it is our human duty to help these people. it is no mans right to watch another starve to death. failure to help is co-operation in death and suffering.