Bush losing Stem Cell battle

[bipper]

Wow nicely done! Just when I thought there were people left in this world i read this thread.

What people refuse to realize is that the embryos from which they get the ESCs will eventually die, anyway. These are embryos without families and lives. The life of a person with people who care about them takes precedence over a cell that would die within a matter of days. Many people also refuse to see the possibilities of stem cell research and its benefits. Not only is it a cure for many diseases, it is a potential cure for cancer and HIV and AIDS.

Ok good point. Now look at it under a broader scope.

Embryo: In humans, the prefetal product of conception from implantation through the eighth week of development.

Pro-life: Ok I am pro-life. Lining embryos up to to be ripped apart is going to kill them. The excuse, “Well they are good as dead anyways” is not a valid excuse. We would have to look outside the scope of this issue and see why these embryos are being secluded anyways. To me the whole idea is entirely selfish and defies many different moral issues. It is not worth the small plight of a happy ending to create and sacrifice lives.

Pro-choice: I am not pro choice. As the choice never includes the one who really matters. A choice made by one person to kill another person is murder. Most people take pro-choice as an act of freedom. Well here freedom deceits law. The fetus does not have rights, so we say that it is not murder. But yet we do consider a fetus to be human, and murder is a human killing a human through any median.

Pro-choice people can look at these cases like this. Talks occur of weather or not it is ok to clone humans and raise them (as long as they are vegtables at ‘birth’) for human organ farming. I have a friend whom claims that there are other countries looking into this. (not that I believe it 100% but it is applicable here) Is this Ethical? Just how unethical is ethical goanna get!?

I think that the philosophy that we should be looking at is to protect each other. I mean some could have been brought into the world as an embryo doomed to be ripped apart. I know some of the adolescent negatives here will say that is destiny, but if there are any righteous people any more – why wouldn’t you give anything to help someone. Why let this streak of killing go on?

Do we really want the world to become that selfish? That disrespectful over life – one thing that is still a complete enigma to us. A world where the people are so numb and selfish, that other lives will be take to ensure they live 5 more years? When will the fear of death leave this morbid planet and allow people to live their lives out?

Bipper

Also on the US killing people over seas - We don’t kill indiscriminately by nature. If you get killed over there - there is usually a reason. We are not the bad guys in any way. If you say we are and that we should of left the tyrany of sadom go on - then we are really on opposite sides of that fence