Quote Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
gnostic yevon there made the comment "The problem is that the only reason that we are considering ESC and not other versions of the same thing (on say the gitmo prisoners)"

the gitmo to what she is referring to is where america holds it's terrorist and "illegal fighter" prisoners. they are held without trial or charge for up to 4 years. you might know it as guantanamo bay or camp x-ray. it has a wealth of informationon the techniques of "persuation" used in it to gain intelligence.

gnostic yevon seems to suggest experimenting on these prisoners. which something mengele did.

jospeh mengele was a surgeon in auschwitz. he had little bits of fun taking children and people who were about to be gassed and performing lovely experiments on them instead. he was not a nice man to say the least.

gnostic yevon and mengele seem to share similiar idealogy.
OK did you miss the part where I said that was WRONG? I said the reason that such a thing was wrong is that the embryo is HUMAN, not an animal or anything else. What I said and that you missed is that doing such things to ANY human is wrong. What I was pointing out is that by conviently forgeting that the embryo is human, it becomes possible to consider doing things to them that no one would consider CONSIDERING if the group was different. I was attempting to show that by showing the situation if it were merely a different group of people we were considering experimenting on in the name of "saving human lives".

Actually, your reaction proves that notion correct. We would never consider this for any other group unless we were outright Nazis. We shouldn't. And changing the group we do such a thing to doesn't change the morality of the situation. If it would be wrong to experiment on Gitmo prisoners, Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, Disabled people, the poor, etc. Than it is STILL wrong when you speak of embryos. Human is Human.

In related news, Johnathan Smith did not actually think that the solution to poverty in Ireland was to eat Irish children.