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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
    about the being able to hate americans thing. i can hate a french man for being a a certain way. and i can hate a british man foe the same thing. same with an american. but i wouldn't hate a man purely for being french, british or american.
    That sounds very kind of you, but that reallly isn't the message implied in half of your posts, which are pretty much against any man who thinks that America isn't so bad.

    Also, likening Nazi Germany with America is stretching things a bit. Even the most virulent anti-American would recognize that they are taking things quite a bit too far. That'd be like me comparing Great Britain with Soviet Russia.

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    i wasn't saying america was like nazi germany. they are countries which i both don't like. they are similar only in my and others dislike for them.

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    Don't be silly. America is one of the least densely populated countries in the West. Britain has 60,000,000+ people living in an area the size of Ohio. And we still have plenty of space for farming and national parks and the like.
    Then its probably my area..SF is pretty dense after all and alot of new developments lately. In the bay area anyway. West Coast has much more better weather than the East Coast and much more diversification than the East too.

    Lazie Faire(however you spell it) is a failure to some countries. I havent read every single post during my sleep but i know Soviets tried that, and failed badly leading them to the fall of the Soviet. A free market wasnt what they needed. Hence why china and india and other countries need to slowly adapt the free market under control so it doesnt spin out of control like the soviets and die.

    That and all i have to say is..if people have different opinions of America then they have different opinions theres no need to get all riled up. I dont like America's government like Cloud No.9 and very much so like her/him(cant tell). I dont like the government and alot of people that think in the same way, but that does not mean i do not like the guy next to me. That and the only thing this thread has taught me is that when people are anti-american ideals, they get spat at, and that one person is very much so against anything not american -_-

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    Quote Originally Posted by lionx
    hat and the only thing this thread has taught me is that when people are anti-american ideals, they get spat at, and that one person is very much so against anything not american -_-
    Actually, I find the opposite - I am very pro-American, but I get spat on by everyone around me because it's the chic thing in California to hate America.

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    Yeah, it's the "in" thing to be a pseudo-hippie socialist in my parts of America(and the developed world, for that matter). Anti-business, anti-industry, anti-money, pro-government regulations, pro-foreign aid(which leads to everybody wanting to help Africa, but those same people being against the war in Iraq, through a mess of contradictions which is beyond my ability to fathom).

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordblazer
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    I like the USA all round. I get the impression theyre attitude is your either with us, or against us. I dont particularly like that but I may well be wrong and I dont think that attitude has effected me in any way if it does exist in the US. The biggest thing that bothers me about the USA is theyre against global warming so I certainly dont have much problem with them. USA-a ok.
    The thing about the USA is that its constitution was written to benefit Business.Simply put all these companies ha ve so much freedom and does whatever they want(make money.).Which screws over everyone.This causes for changes in the USA to come more slowly than any other country.

    Now lets say if Walmart started opening up branches in Europe.Man Walmart would go out of business because the way they do business int eh states with its workers.They can't do in Europe because Europe has a lot of unions that are pretty strong.

    Now with that said.The big corporations basicly run the united states. I mean the gov. tries to regulate but everytime someone tries some other ugy objects(being paid tons by the corporations to keep the corporation interest as #1.)

    Thus this ignorance with the citizens which basicly pisses off everyone else into hating americans.Because we let crap happen.America was the last anglo country to get rid of slavery.hmm.

    American companies think in the here and now they don't think of the future.Thus the kyoto thing will always be refused until some 30 years +. When they get to there senses when the Japaneese car companies muscle them out.And other foreign companies who knew investing in enviroment friendly things now will benefit everyone and themselves.Which is why GM is in deep .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
    i believe you probably get a better view being outside a country than inside.
    Exactly!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
    "We should smite the evil and care for our fellow man" this is one of the problems i have with america. it is the selectiveness it uses to decides who to defend and who to help. it ignores sudan, zimbabwe, niger, rwanda, uganda but claims to fight for justice and freedom.
    Soo damn true

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukikiro
    we just need to leave people alone. why do you think everyone hates us? because we stick our nose in everyone elses buisness. we need to just sit back and leave people to their work, whatever that is.
    Amen

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    The thing about the USA is that its constitution was written to benefit Business.Simply put all these companies ha ve so much freedom and does whatever they want(make money.).Which screws over everyone.This causes for changes in the USA to come more slowly than any other country.
    That's like saying a country prohibiting child abuse benefits kids. Yes, it does - but the abuse shouldn't be there in the first place. The Constitution was not there to help business, it was there to not impede business.

    Now lets say if Walmart started opening up branches in Europe. Man Walmart would go out of business because the way they do business int eh states with its workers.They can't do in Europe because Europe has a lot of unions that are pretty strong.
    If the workers want to unite and not work there(or the people want to boycott), then that's fine. But most of Europe has more socialist, goverment-enforced, arbitrary restrictions on business.

    Now with that said.The big corporations basicly run the united states. I mean the gov. tries to regulate but everytime someone tries some other ugy objects(being paid tons by the corporations to keep the corporation interest as #1.)
    The businessmen are only able to "run" politics because the politicians are able to regulate businesses! HOW CAN NO ONE SEE THAT??? If the government couldn't regulate businesses, then the businesses couldn't have politicians in their pockets.

    Thus this ignorance with the citizens which basicly pisses off everyone else into hating americans.Because we let crap happen.America was the last anglo country to get rid of slavery.hmm.
    You're equating slavery and business?

    American companies think in the here and now they don't think of the future.Thus the kyoto thing will always be refused until some 30 years +. When they get to there senses when the Japaneese car companies muscle them out.And other foreign companies who knew investing in enviroment friendly things now will benefit everyone and themselves.Which is why GM is in deep .
    American companies that can rely on government help think in the here and now because they don't have to think of the future - the government thinks the same way(as shown by the arbitray antitrust laws, the Federal Reserve mess which sparked off the Great Depression, etc.). In a free market, competition, the law of supply and demand, would force businesses to better themselves if they wished to make money.

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    I have to honestly say i never thought it was a chic thing to hate America if you lived in California...i must be living in a hole if people actually are doing it because its popular...x_x but i never do it because its the popular thing to do, its just something i came up with looking at things myself. But it IS interesting to know that people are doing that =/ Btw Hachi its not you >_>;

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    Quote Originally Posted by lionx
    I have to honestly say i never thought it was a chic thing to hate America if you lived in California...i must be living in a hole if people actually are doing it because its popular...x_x but i never do it because its the popular thing to do, its just something i came up with looking at things myself. But it IS interesting to know that people are doing that =/ Btw Hachi its not you >_>;
    Yeah there ar epeople with good reason to hate the US gov. But overall. Most people are doing it because its the fad.

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    And you know that how..? >_>

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    Lol everyones doing it XD

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    Again define everyone, wheres the figures that point to that..? If its just people around your neighborhood, i am sure that it points to everyone else in the nation as well.

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    There are wal-marts in europe, arn't there? I know there is a off shot of it in Scottland as one of my friends is moving there to work at a walmart store.

    Thats right - the yankees are invading

    Go pro america!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bipper
    There are wal-marts in europe, arn't there? I know there is a off shot of it in Scottland as one of my friends is moving there to work at a walmart store.

    Thats right - the yankees are invading

    Go pro america!

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    They dont tend ot do that well in europe though due to the fact that lol they can't conduct business like they do in the states.

    and lionx everyone if defined being the ones who hate america.lol.The fad.

    SOme people hate america because americans don't realise that the world hates them XD.

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