Why put a giant arcade stick on a controler? A plus shaped Dpad is all a true fighter player needs. If you think the PS2 Dpad makes for good fighters, try playing one with a plus shaped Dpad, then tell me the difference. Trust me, I'm a fighting game veteran and I know these things better than most people.
...You missed the point.
Fighting games should be played with arcade sticks, which are a totally separate KIND of controller, you know.
I know the PS2 pad is awful for fighting games, it's awful for most things, and I've actually found the graduated GC analogue stick a lot easier to use, but I still stand by the fact that if you really want to play fighting games properly, you should get an arcade pad and not be using the normal controller.
If you went to a competition and tried to play it with a controller and the D-Pad, you'd be laughed at.
Funny. I went to a Guilty Gear tournament with a Mad Catz Micron controller for XBox and I did pretty good. Mainly because the D-pad was plus shaped.
CvS and Soul Calibur 2 tournament I went to with a friend, he was very much laughed at for using a controller and peer pressure led to him using arcade sticks (which he failed at).
I didn't say you wouldn't do well, just it's not what the supposed "pros" would use. Congrats on your success by the way (No, I'm not being sarcastic, for once anyway).
But you kinda proved my point on the fact that unofficial controllers are usually better for specific purposes, like fighting games, compared to the official ones. So it's probably a more sensible idea to not expect specific things from official controllers when they're meant for a general purpose.
The Gamecube controller is one of the most confusing things ever. Try going from the nice normal N64 controller, to something with buttons of the full alphabet. Well, maybe I'm exageratting, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Revolution Controller is something like:
(Those circles with the squigles are not sperm, they're the analog sticks.And the star thing is the D-pad, except it's made all complicated and "futuristic")
The PS2 controller was great, the only fault in my eyes is that the analog stick's rubber coating came off too easily. Or that may be my brother's fault, as he liked to pick at it.
Last edited by Rye; 08-01-2005 at 01:36 PM.
About fighting games...some people ARE better with the D-pad than Joystick. However a majority of people do use the joystick when playing most fighting games. Its easier for most people to execute moves. However i know some people are still better with D-Pad as much as i myself cannot use properly to do advanced moves consistantly.
The PS2 controller is just a big ripoff on the SNES one. In which case i like the controller only if it was a little more huge in a way, sometimes it felt too compact. Controller designing is varying and very different...so far i feel the SNES one works best overall many for many games. The GC one also works well too(except fighting games...go GC-ism -_-). I feel it should be comfortable, in which the GC controller does well. However buttons need to be placed good as well for overall gameplay and i feel that SNES ones does that the best. D-Pad or stick...doenst matter...long as you have both somewhere easily accessible. I hate switching over to my analog stick for some crazy ass move but screwing up because that split second of me switching to the stick (because its too hard to do on pad) and back.
I do like the analog on the L and R buttons. I just think that it takes a bit too long to fully click it.Originally Posted by Lindy
I have no qualms with the graduated analog stick, but a lot of people don't seem to like it. The GC controller is actually my favorite controller of all time, but I guess my not-so-little rant about it could have given the wrong impression.And the graduated points on the analogue stick are there so it's easier to set yourself in specific directions, since even though you can have a 360 controller, it's rare to actually be moving around in anything other than the eight directions you have shown on the GC controller.
Just one big, all purpose, red button.
It must be red.
Word/s.
You've got to be kidding me, no way will Nintendo so something like that.Well, maybe I'm exageratting, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Revolution Controller is something like:
Apparently, I have been declared banished.
I think, no matter what the Revolution controller is like.
It's going to be better than the boomerang of a PS3 controller, that thing looks impossible to use.
Bah, more complaints about the ps3 controller, Sheesh its the exact same controller except "ITZ CURVED!!1 OH NOES IM SCARED AND CONFUSEED!1!" Well its looking like theyll be changing it anyway. If you can use the N64 controller or the original Xbox controller then I wouldnt worry too much about it.
It's nothing like the original controller.
Same buttons, yes, but it's the way it's shaped.
It's not just curved, it's shaped in a way that I could never imagine it being comfortable in my hands, curved so much, with those long...well, they're just...ugh, I can't even describe how it looks to me.
It's just TOO curved and TOO long. I like something different yes, but it's designed more with style in mind than ergonomics.
Alright then, fair enough if you genuinely feel that way. I just dont think its made any huge change of design big enough to explain all the complaints its been getting.
Kaycee says (12:06 AM):
whos' obama?
whatever nintendo makes it out to be.
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