View Poll Results: The Ragnarok overpasses the holographic walls of Esthar.What do you think?A bug?

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    Quote Originally Posted by G SpOtZ
    maybe the programmers didn't think people would care so much XD
    Probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liamo
    now can we get back to making fun of FE?
    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade
    That's why we can all make fun of Future Esthar, even though half of the people making fun of him now weren't here when we started.
    It is kinda sad that people might have the impression of coming to this forum only to pick on a specific person.....

    I kinda started the whole thing but making fun of him is never my intention....

    So do people make fun of Future Esthar just because he is Future Esthar and also because of someone post rebuttles to Future's theories and people just join in the "fun" and make fun of him regardless of what the theories is about only because Future post it.

    Although almost all his theories is far fetched and out of this world, it give reasons to post sensible rebuttles and only a bit of reasons to make fun of his personality and character but I dun think we should condenm him.

    It is also kinda being over suspicious like anyone that support or have the same views as Future is branded as another mule account of Future Esthar. The two victims are Bipper and Flare_Cross currently(some might suspect Random_Lurker as well.....). I reckon that they might not want to post again here.

    Sorry if I sound like "Forum police" here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknowns
    Quote Originally Posted by liamo
    now can we get back to making fun of FE?
    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade
    That's why we can all make fun of Future Esthar, even though half of the people making fun of him now weren't here when we started.
    It is kinda sad that people might have the impression of coming to this forum only to pick on a specific person.....

    I kinda started the whole thing but making fun of him is never my intention....

    So do people make fun of Future Esthar just because he is Future Esthar and also because of someone post rebuttles to Future's theories and people just join in the "fun" and make fun of him regardless of what the theories is about only because Future post it.

    Although almost all his theories is far fetched and out of this world, it give reasons to post sensible rebuttles and only a bit of reasons to make fun of his personality and character but I dun think we should condenm him.

    It is also kinda being over suspicious like anyone that support or have the same views as Future is branded as another mule account of Future Esthar. The two victims are Bipper and Flare_Cross currently(some might suspect Random_Lurker as well.....). I reckon that they might not want to post again here.

    Sorry if I sound like "Forum police" here.
    I don't make fun of Future Esthar because of his theories, or even just for the hell of it. I make fun of him because he refuses to acknowledge reason when discussing his theories.

    I haven't seen anyone blame Bipper of being one of Future Esthar's seperate accounts. I certainly don't. The two don't act that similar. Also, while my snap judgement about Flare_Cross was that he was a duplicate account, talking with him shows that he is far more reasonable than Future Esthar, even if he did start out with some far-fetched theories.
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    i only say things like that as a joke. never serious, you can't just assume without taking the other persons actual self into consideration. i see it as harmless fun for us, and they shouldn't be insulted.it's not like future esthar is a bad person. he just comes up with outrageous theories that are amusing to all of us.

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    Ya, I guess I am a bit over reacted here. It is like seeing Mewt from FFTA. Sorry.

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    's okay. XD

    Thank you Hysterian!

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    Either that, or the in-game image of the Ragnarok can pass through the image of the barrier as it is represented on the World Map.

    The World Map cannot be treated as a literal representation of what's there. If you believed everything you saw on the World Map, then you'd have to believe that Squall is taller than most buildings, and a vehicle can be larger than a village.
    The fact that the Ragnarok appears to go through the barrier is, to me, obviously just a convenience. The barrier, if it was shown to scale, would be absolutely miniscule - so no point wasting time and patience by making the player ascend every time they go into Esthar. Of course, some people point out that you can't fly through mountains. However, mountains are far larger than the barrier, to the extent that they actually matter from a navigational point of view. The barrier, on the other hand, is at most 10-15 meters high, so the Ragnarok would have to be flying pretty darn low to actually hit it.
    Anyone else noticed that, if you fly or "park" near a forest, some of the trees can pass through the Ragnarok? Same explanation, I think.
    Still suspicious,though.
    Things need to had internal consistency even on the world map.

    1-Maybe the wall we see on the world map is 10 to 15 meters?How do you know it isn´t?After all things on the world map weren´t at scale as you said.
    2-I don´t believe the holographic walls to be just what we see.I believe the real holographic wall is an abode (semi-sphere) over the country.
    They start on the soil and make a curve on the high sky.
    However we just happen to see on the world map (and field) the displays near the soil.
    It´s not like this last one is a valid argument though.I just added it as curiosity.

    Anyway it´s better to make fun of me than to BE ANGRY at me.
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    Actually that would be pretty cool if you had to yoke back to get into and out of estharxD

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    The walls are only a hologram...so they can be passed through with the Ragnarok. The Garden can't pass through it because the pilot sees the wall and assumes that it would be impossible to pass through it (as you would, I mean it looks pretty solid…). Obviously, no one is going to fly the Garden into a wall and destroy it on the off chance that it WAS a hologram (an occurrence that no one knows about at first…) so the Garden stops before it breaches the walls.

    Can’t remember if you can get the Garden back after you have been to Estar, but if you can, the same sort of thing would apply. Even if Squall DID tell the pilot that the walls were a hologram, I doubt that it would entice them into doing something as ludicrous as flying the Garden into it. I mean, just the sight of the Garden moving towards the wall would be enough to give half the students heart failure. Of course, the Ragnarok is piloted by Selphie and since:

    1. She’s seen first hand that the walls are holographic, and
    2. She’s an insane, war mongering bitch,
    She might be more incline to fly straight through it….

    Think that covers everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThroneofDravaris

    1. She’s seen first hand that the walls are holographic, and
    2. She’s an insane, war mongering bitch,
    She might be more incline to fly straight through it….

    Think that covers everything.
    When Selphie isn't piloting the raganarok, Zell or Quistis will be piloting. So the same reasons applies to the two of them....?

    To Future Esthar: So, how does it affect the storyline that much as you mentioned last time?

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    Giving Future the power to mae a poll is like giving a kid a gun and telling him not to shoot anyone. You know whats going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknowns

    When Selphie isn't piloting the raganarok, Zell or Quistis will be piloting. So the same reasons applies to the two of them....?
    I can't remember any point in the game in which anyone other than Selphie pilots the ragnarok...but the same would apply really...

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    Does she pilot it when she's in your party?

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    To Zell it might fit.

    But to Quistis, well...

    She’s an insane, war mongering bitch,
    She might be more incline to fly straight through it….
    This two might not fit in considering the character of Quistis herself.

    Anyway, to get Quistis to pilot, have Zell and Selphie in your party.

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    Oh right, never used Selphie so....

    I think point one would take precident then.

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