View Poll Results: The Ragnarok overpasses the holographic walls of Esthar.What do you think?A bug?

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    The walls are NOT holographic, for the last time! Everyone who thinks they are holographs, go play through the Great Salt Lake section of the game again. It's made painfully obvious that the wall consists of multiple SOLID hexagons(or some polygon, can't remember for sure how many sides) which can each appear as whatever Esthar wants it to look like.

    I mean, the party even climbs up a ladder which is attached to this wall. That alone disproves the notion that the wall is holographic.

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    I thought irvine piloted if you had selphie in your party xD

    Well I don't usually go on the ragna's bridge anyways ^_^

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    Here something to clear the confusion:



    Quistis pilot it when Selphie and Zell is in your party and Zell pilot it when Selphie is in your party.

    EDIT: Just something to add here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut
    The walls are NOT holographic, for the last time! Everyone who thinks they are holographs, go play through the Great Salt Lake section of the game again. It's made painfully obvious that the wall consists of multiple SOLID hexagons(or some polygon, can't remember for sure how many sides) which can each appear as whatever Esthar wants it to look like.

    I mean, the party even climbs up a ladder which is attached to this wall. That alone disproves the notion that the wall is holographic.
    Maybe I use a more simple way to explain this. The Esthar thingy works like a chameleon which camouflauge to merge with the surroundings. But it doesn't just change colors only that is.

    And you can touch the chameleon ever if it camoflauge to merge with the surrounding because the chameleon existed.
    Last edited by Christmas; 08-27-2005 at 05:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut
    The walls are NOT holographic, for the last time! Everyone who thinks they are holographs, go play through the Great Salt Lake section of the game again. It's made painfully obvious that the wall consists of multiple SOLID hexagons(or some polygon, can't remember for sure how many sides) which can each appear as whatever Esthar wants it to look like.

    I mean, the party even climbs up a ladder which is attached to this wall. That alone disproves the notion that the wall is holographic.
    Hmm, I guess I’ll have to revert back to my first theory as to why you can pass through it:

    (SPOILER)Because shut up, that’s why!

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    FE: WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE STORYLINE?!

    You have not answered the question. Maybe the programers decided it would be a pain in the ass to have to fly over and decided to make it so you wouldn't have to. And also as someone pointed out earlier, the world map is not the actual thing. If it were, Squall would be bigger than Winhill and would crush all of the residents there. When the ragnarok goes through the barrier it just means that it is beyond that point.

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    Following that logic I would say they can pass through certain mountains so that it couldnīt be a pain on the ass.

    And I already said things on the world map had to have internal consistency.To say the ship pass through the wall because that is not that high is on direct contradiction with the mechanics of the world map we are used to see.Do we see Squall going through part of the sea because the distances werenīt at scale?No.Nor we see this kinds of bug on the world map with the exception of the walls.

    What does this had to do with the storyline of FF8?
    Thatīs what I waited you to guess.

    Hint1:This thread is entirely related to the thread "Beautiful".

    Now think a little and you will guess additional information.

    Help-The "Color Check" panel was seen on the holographic wall.
    Nearly all vehicles on FF8 uses the technology that the Ragnarok uses to pass through the holographic walls.
    Very few people knows this.
    The lines of the poligonal shape cannot be crossed by foot (with just a few exceptions).
    Possible conclusion:

    I will let that for you to answer .I like to be interactive with people.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Possible conclusion:

    Your theories are a load of crap.

    How's that for an interactive conclusion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut
    Possible conclusion:

    Your theories are a load of crap.

    How's that for an interactive conclusion?
    i agree. i almost feel like future esthar iscoming up with these crazy theories and making US try to figure him out for his own amusement because he likes to see people actually think about his outrageous ideas. oops did i say ideas? i meant insane, unprovable theories that only exist in ur little fake world. O.o sorry to flame, but damn. enough is enough lol.

    always saying things that you can't back up. sure anythings possibly, because THIS IS A GAME. you can come up with ur own theories but you can't say they are facts, just opinions. geesh...

    Thank you Hysterian!

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    I wouldn't mind his theories if he was actually willing to discuss them. But he simply dismisses every arguement put against his theories, offers no evidence to support them, and refuses to consider that he may be incorrect for even half a second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar
    Following that logic I would say they can pass through certain mountains so that it couldnīt be a pain on the ass.

    And I already said things on the world map had to have internal consistency.To say the ship pass through the wall because that is not that high is on direct contradiction with the mechanics of the world map we are used to see.Do we see Squall going through part of the sea because the distances werenīt at scale?No.Nor we see this kinds of bug on the world map with the exception of the walls.

    What does this had to do with the storyline of FF8?
    Thatīs what I waited you to guess.

    Hint1:This thread is entirely related to the thread "Beautiful".

    Now think a little and you will guess additional information.

    Help-The "Color Check" panel was seen on the holographic wall.
    Nearly all vehicles on FF8 uses the technology that the Ragnarok uses to pass through the holographic walls.
    Very few people knows this.
    The lines of the poligonal shape cannot be crossed by foot (with just a few exceptions).
    Possible conclusion:

    I will let that for you to answer .I like to be interactive with people.
    I think you post at the wrong thread. This is the thread you should post:

    http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=60973

    And if you dun want to reveal it, so be it.

  11. #116

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    I always just figured that The Ragnarok could since it was originally (one of?) Esthar's flagship(s). ^^
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  12. #117

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse1
    No... it's just to keep you from waltzing in there with the garden before you're supposed to.
    There is no way to get to esthar with the garden until you are supposed to be there.....

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