Aeris was supposed to live.

[crazybayman]

By this logic, Aerith was never even supposed to exist, because there was a time when no one had thought her up yet.

Yes.

And sometime before that, there was a time when they didn't know if they would create FFVII.

And sometime before that, there was even a time when they didn't realize they would release Final Fantasy! Period!!!!

And to the people who posted earlier, do you really think that they didn't have a pretty good idea of what the story was going to be when they decided they were going to make FFVII?

Yes. Generally they go like this:
Everyone: "OH NOES SOMETHING BAD IS HAPPENEDING, WHAT DO WE DO?"
Hero/Heroine: "I WILL SAVE THE WORLD!"

See I could write a FF.

Go idea. A suitable title could be FFVII: Aeris the Crack-wh@re - Her Days before Avalanche.
IT has been established in previous threads that she was a drug-dealer, and a hoe afterall.

[Dr.Blue]

Don’t be foolish. You, as well as I know that a FF is not a normal RPG. Do you really think Square would just let anyone come in and make the story, with no plan?
Actually, let us see for our selves, the following is an actual, real life conversation* when FFVII’s script was decided upon.

Some Guy: “Uh, yea, I wanted to make the story for Final Fantasy VII.”

Square: “Ok. Do you have a script, your main ideas, and a story/characters lined up?”

Some Guy: “No…but I’m pretty sure there will be Chocobos…and mougles.”

Square: “Pronounced “Moogles”. Do you have any other ideas?

Some Guy: “No, I’ll decide the story AFTER I start the game. As is apparently the custom with developing games.”

Square: “I see no problem with that. Have fun.”

Oh, I guess I was wrong. : )

*not actual conversation

[Mirage]

It's true. Why do you think Aerith has her final limit break? It's impossible to get her to that level before she dies.

That statement is false.

[crazybayman]

Don’t be foolish. You, as well as I know that a FF is not a normal RPG. Do you really think Square would just let anyone come in and make the story, with no plan?
Actually, let us see for our selves, the following is an actual, real life conversation* when FFVII’s script was decided upon.

Some Guy: “Uh, yea, I wanted to make the story for Final Fantasy VII.”

Square: “Ok. Do you have a script, your main ideas, and a story/characters lined up?”

Some Guy: “No…but I’m pretty sure there will be Chocobos…and mougles.”

Square: “Pronounced “Moogles”. Do you have any other ideas?

Some Guy: “No, I’ll decide the story AFTER I start the game. As is apparently the custom with developing games.”

Square: “I see no problem with that. Have fun.”

Oh, I guess I was wrong. : )

*not actual conversation

I was kidding, tool.

[TheAbominatrix]

Plots are in constant developmental flux. Saying that Aerith's fate was changed but the plot would have remained the same makes no sense, because you have no proof of this, nor do you have the slightest idea what stage they made this change in. For all you know they had the basic plot and characters down, then decided to write in Aerith's death and add Tifa to the roster.

The only thing that statement you provided proves is that, at the time they thought up Aerith, they hadnt yet decided she was going to die. And then they did. It still doesnt mean she was supposed to live. First drafts, as had been said.

[liamo]

if she was supposed to live then why did she die? that pretty much shows that she was fated to die

[KoShiatar]

By this logic, Aerith was never even supposed to exist, because there was a time when no one had thought her up yet.

Actually, it was Tifa who was never supposed to exist. In the beginning there only was Aeris and they thought about Tifa later. But from that moment on, Aeris became the one doomed to death. (If I understood correctly, they threw Tifa in after deciding that Aeris should die).

[TheAbominatrix]

By this logic, Aerith was never even supposed to exist, because there was a time when no one had thought her up yet.

Actually, it was Tifa who was never supposed to exist. In the beginning there only was Aeris and they thought about Tifa later. But from that moment on, Aeris became the one doomed to death. (If I understood correctly, they threw Tifa in after deciding that Aeris should die).

You dont get my meaning. What I'm saying is, if Aerith was meant to live because her death hadnt yet been decided, then technically she wasnt even supposed to exist, because there was a time before the developers had thought of her character at all (and by that I mean way before the game was thought of, right back to the beginning of time).

Aerith wasnt 'meant' to live because her death hadnt been decided, anymore than a fetus in the womb is 'meant' to be one sex before their development gets to the stage where such things are decided. A very basic and glib example, and to note, I dont care if I'm a bit off base in the biology aspect. It's just basic to illustrate my point.

[Meat Puppet]

Everybody dies one day.

[Shoden]

oh great not another "Aeris should have lived" thread jesus smurfing christ
look she died end of story the final game had her die ok

[Winter Nights]

Can someone please explain to me the point of this retarded thread. So at one point in the writing process, they hadn't decided to kill her off.. No farkin crap. That's why it's called a writing process.

[Roxula]

Wow Aeris died no one else in the world will ever die will they?

[Mercen-X]

I think I heard that according to the originales, Cloud was intended to be a half-demon hybrid and Sephiroth was supposed to be his transforming half-brother.
Vincent wasn't intended to have a gauntlet, but instead he was supposed to have a pair of gnarly pistols and return from beyond the grave to take revenge against Rufus who had killed him for "betraying" him in favor of Shinra.
Aeris was originally meant to be Aerith (pronounced Aeris), a whore from the Honeybee Inn who frequented the Seventh Heaven and engaged in regular drunken orgies with Barret and Tifa.
Marlene was never supposed to be human but instead a tiny robot doll designed by Professor Gast and programmed with the intent of studying the "slummers" reaction to prolonged exposure to Mako liquid that provided their towns with energy.
Red XIII was another robot prodigy. Except he was going to be a hulking mass of armor like the robot in Chrono Trigger only red.
The Turks were going to be called True Grave or the Raiths before the Turks was decided.
Originally Reno was set to die when Cloud chopped off his head and threw his corpse off the tower, but that was a little too violent.
Zack was going to be the main character of this game before they decided to kill him. Before that, they intended that Cloud be little more than his underling or effeminate lover.



It doesn't matter that all that's made up as it doesn't matter what Square's original "IDEAS" were, the story went as it was intended to go because that's the way it ended up. It would be saying something completely different if FF7 was based on a book in which Aeris lived. Then you'd be wholly correct in your assumptions.

George Lucas's Star Wars originally had it that Luke be called Starkiller and that Return of the Jedi be called Revenge of the Jedi (which revenge doesn't suit the character of a Jedi). If you say that Aeris was supposed to live because at one point they hadn't created the idea, then you have to say the same for any character in any story that has or will ever die(d).

[crazybayman]

WHAT!?!?!? AERIS DIES?!?!? OMGWTF!!!?!?!?

[Dr.Blue]

nor do you have the slightest idea what stage they made this change in. For all you know they had the basic plot and characters down, then decided to write in Aerith's death and add Tifa to the roster.

As I stated earlier, do you really think they let them start making FFVII before they had a pretty solid plan for the plot? It's common sence.

Can someone please explain to me the point of this retarded thread. So at one point in the writing process, they hadn't decided to kill her off.. No farkin crap. That's why it's called a writing process.

Oh hush. If you don't like the thread, and don't want it to continue, don't you think it is both hipocritical and idiotic to bump it saying you hate it?

As for everyone else. Just calm down, I'm not saying she should be reserected. I just wanted to point out that quote because I'm sick of people saying:

"She died, she was meant to die, she was alaways meant to die!!!!!!"

Any time anyone mentions her.