word. the USA won't be top of the world forever like all the old super powers, maybe when they finally drop off we can get some real work done.
word. the USA won't be top of the world forever like all the old super powers, maybe when they finally drop off we can get some real work done.
"NPC: Sorry this house is sealed off because of Blight"
Lol, yep kill the country that wants the virtues - and supports em better than your own. /cheer You constantly bitch about misstreatment and crap cause its documented - I am sure your country has never had a police brutality, or some Ahole that woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day and snapped. Don't be hypocritical in yoru judgments.after that human equality and freedom would be nice.
Personally, the human race is great. Its our focus on becoming rich and owning a 100k car that is rediculous.
Bipper
No my thinking was that with the rest of the world out of the way, we would have no need for Bush, and we could go back to swords and bows.Originally Posted by jrgen
Are you saying the rest of the world somehow prevents the continuance of your distorted version of freedom? I don't think it does. I think the cause of increasing despotic elements of your society is merely national and that these would not cease with the absence of non-american population.
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bipper in recent times my country hasn't set up torture camps. my country hasn't destroyed the un. my country gave aid to niger (the only country that did). my country signed kyoto.
"Lol, yep kill the country that wants the virtues - and supports em better than your own." why is america better than my country?
We don't have torture camps.
I am emphatically against the UN.
guantanamo bay is a torture camp. it breaches the human rights charter and practices torture.
There is no use arguing this, because your incorrect apprasial has been brought up time and time again of this issue alone. We do not have torture camps.
well, the US pretty much does have torture camps. I'm not sure which is worse, the fact that we are torturing, or the convoluted lengths some Americans will reach to try to justify it or rationalize it away as being acceptible.
it's a camp in which people are tortured. torture is defined in the human rights charter. the tactics in use in guantanamo breach it.
That is not condoned by the government. I wouldn't rationalize torture as being acceptable, but this is not some government-endorsed, American-citizen endorsed practice.
the kubark manual is government endorsed.
Let me explain something, I suppose.
You make wide, sweeping comments. "America loves torture" is not exactly true. Most Americans are aghast with some of our policies, and whatnot. To say that every American (or even a grand majority of them) support the clause in the Kubark Manual that implies torture is to be dead wrong.
Another thing to mention is that while certain agencies within the US government, in that sense, is legally allowed to utilize torture in extreme circumstances, does not mean that the entire governmental system is flawed. I disagree with torture, too. Trying to undermine my arguments - all of them - by resorting to "Americans support torture omg" is childish. (By the way, you asked earlier - is it that tactic that is called "argumentum ad hominem").
While we're on Latin phrases, there is another one I would like to present: ad hoc. It is a solution that is geared toward a specific purpose. If you or I or anyone wants to accomplish anything, it is this that we must utilize to solve anything. Rather than destroy the entire US government, we must attack whatever aspects of our government that condones torture, and then drop the issue when it is resolved.
Perhaps more than anything it is the overemotional, irrational side of your arguments that makes any other real aspect hidden - I don't feel like talking with anyone that bashes America for no apparent reason, but I'm willing to talk about certain practices we should abolish.
so you hat eme? how can oyu hate americans. lol most of them are either poor and have a lot of other problems than to worry about the international politic scheme.That's true. And Americans dislike it, but that's not the product of an evil empire, just a bunch of overzealous conservatives in office.
On a side note,
This is why America is hated by the world, and it's things like this that go against the concept of freedom, and this is why I hate a lot of Americans.
ameircans? poor? you don't know the meaning of the word. find me an american surving on a dollar a day.
when i say america i mean it's government that is so into torture it produces a manual on how to commit it. then changes it's own laws about it. and makes a whole camp dedicated to the idea.
ad it's not extreme circumstances. well while holding and torturing a 10 year old boy is pretty extreme, and blinding a prisoner and torturing innocents. it isn't in itself odd. it is committed greatly in there. people are exported to horrible countries if their methods aren't working.
and i attack the whole american government not over one flaw but a huge list of crimes, failures and evils.
Oh i mean us minorities lol most of us are poor.
My aunt makes about 10k a year lol not a great salary lol.
YOu never seen a horrible neiborhood because all the fancy stuff covers it up.
But seriously the poor americans really are concerned with themselves because they have to be in order to survive.
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