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    the funny things is that while people whine about me on eotw and say i'm the evilest person there and i'm gonna cause the moon to collide with the earth if i keep on not liking maericna policy. i have not had one warning or ban from the admin. so i must be doing something right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloud No.9
    the funny things is that while people whine about me on eotw and say i'm the evilest person there and i'm gonna cause the moon to collide with the earth if i keep on not liking maericna policy. i have not had one warning or ban from the admin. so i must be doing something right.
    Cloud, like I said before, no one really cares that much about you, and we certainly don't think you're "evil". You can just be very freaking stubborn, and that's what pisses us all off (even supporters). I mean, being anti-American isn't a new idea, after all.

    Oh, and to all of you new knights and whatnot, I say this: burn the damn place.

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    Burning the damn place isn't going to stop the threads from starting in other forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeza
    Burning the damn place isn't going to stop the threads from starting in other forums.
    True, but from reading the thread, it seems that the general consensus among the staff is that Eyes on the World is lame beyond compare, and that no one even wants to moderate it. Perhaps if those threads spread into other, more moderated boards (GC and EoEo) they would be a little bit less spammy.

    I mean, I admit I'm a real ass in EotW at times, but that's because I know I can get away with it. (I've never done anything bannable, though. Don't get excited, haha).

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    Quote Originally Posted by edczxcvbnm
    The forum was created(if I am not mistaken) because people kept wanting to discuss terrorist attacks, random news article and such and such. Some people complained that it flooded EoEO and it did but the flow was never going to stay THAT high to warrent its own forum and I think that is the case now for the most part. It is like the Xenogears board. It just isn't ment to be.

    I never liked that World Events was created and I still don't. I don't see why the occasional new article has to be dicussed there. The only time it is really bad for any forum is usually once every two years(US elections) and when something big happens like the London Bombings, Iraq invasion or 9/11/2001. Outside of that the forum is usually pretty dead.
    You know, that's a very nice idea. So, you want Eyes on The World to be reserved and used only when a major event happens? I mean, I could see that happening. The staff removes EoTW from being viewed for most of the time, but when something happens that affects the world or some part of the world that would increase activity in EoEO about that event, then probably staff can bring back the forum, and when everything slows down or when the discussions are about over, they can remove the forum.

    Apparently, I have been declared banished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Proto
    You know, that's a very nice idea. So, you want Eyes on The World to be reserved and used only when a major event happens? I mean, I could see that happening. The staff removes EoTW from being viewed for most of the time, but when something happens that affects the world or some part of the world that would increase activity in EoEO about that event, then probably staff can bring back the forum, and when everything slows down or when the discussions are about over, they can remove the forum.
    The problem with that is that it sounds quite arbitrary. What signifies normal events from sweeping world events? I would say that the recent Supreme Court incidents that were discussed in the forums as big events, but it's not really a world event.

    I, myself, don't see anything wrong with having a political forum. I just don't see why it can't be moderated. I mean, Christ, it's bad, but that's the staff's job. Go through and lock all of the threads that suck (but base it on something less subjective than "I don't like this thread, which I see a lot). Make the rules a bit closer. I mean, it's unrealistic to think that there will be no flaming of any kind in those kind of threads. Politics and religion are two huge topics to the average individual; to expect them to act "maturely" (read: as a robot) in threads of that nature is pretty foolish.

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    There's no use in making EotW hidden, seeing how most people seem to ignore it a lot of times, myself included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachifusa
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Proto
    You know, that's a very nice idea. So, you want Eyes on The World to be reserved and used only when a major event happens? I mean, I could see that happening. The staff removes EoTW from being viewed for most of the time, but when something happens that affects the world or some part of the world that would increase activity in EoEO about that event, then probably staff can bring back the forum, and when everything slows down or when the discussions are about over, they can remove the forum.
    The problem with that is that it sounds quite arbitrary. What signifies normal events from sweeping world events? I would say that the recent Supreme Court incidents that were discussed in the forums as big events, but it's not really a world event.

    I, myself, don't see anything wrong with having a political forum. I just don't see why it can't be moderated. I mean, Christ, it's bad, but that's the staff's job. Go through and lock all of the threads that suck (but base it on something less subjective than "I don't like this thread, which I see a lot). Make the rules a bit closer. I mean, it's unrealistic to think that there will be no flaming of any kind in those kind of threads. Politics and religion are two huge topics to the average individual; to expect them to act "maturely" (read: as a robot) in threads of that nature is pretty foolish.
    Solid points all round. If the forum's gonna remain, it needs to be permanent; what constitutes 'important news' is too subjective.

    When we say people are supposed to act "maturely" in that forum, that generally means they're simply supposed to avoid name-calling and general dicking around. That is what should be easier to achieve. I do, however, agree that "zero tolerance against crap threads" would be easier and more effective than "zero tolerance against individual misdemeanours".

    Also, I reckon that EoEO bans and EotW bans could be kept separate, since the subject matter of each forum is wildly different, as are the ways that people debate in each forum.

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    If you don't like the forum, don't go there. Piece of cake, it ain't that hard and I'm sure it don't hurt your feelings.

    I agree with Big D about separating EoEO and EoTW bans, but I also think we should keep one ban that applies to both, because some people are just too irritating and mean to be in either.

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    No way. Haven't you ever seen a political 'Debate'

    Where do you stand on this?

    Guy one: Blah blah blah blah
    Guy two: Guy one is wrong because blah blah blah
    Guy one: Now that just doesn't make any sense because of blah blah blah
    Guy two: Your just wrong and I am right!

    View at home: Huh? That is to complicated to understand.
    We could all be like the Koreans and start throwing books and/or food at each other when we don't agree.


    The thing about the forums is that people like to argue and personel views is the easiest thing to argue about. Then beyond that people don't like it when other people can argue better than they can. They take it personally and then the personal insults come out. All the rules a leader might want could be set up but people tend to view the rules as optional. Even if the rules were enforced stricter, people would probably keep up they way they do and take the ban because they view it as being worth it. Even so, with the bans at least it keeps things better off a little at a time as the ban lasts. The only thing that can be done is to encourage people to warn, possibly in an announcement, and then it's up to the Mods to actually read the warned posts. That, and Leeza could start doing something around here instead of just taking credit for Yam's work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theundeadhero
    That, and Leeza could start doing something around here instead of just taking credit for Yam's work.
    That would be the simple solution, if only...

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    I don't think there's really any problem.

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    The solution is to hire an EoTW moderator to moderate discussions, like TV debates.

    Or to banish the forum entirely.

    You know, whatever.

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    There is actually no problem as long as everyone knows when to click on the warn button.
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    Oh but there is!

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