My independent analysis

[Raistlin]

I agree with people who say that EotW should be more moderated. Yes, it's good to have members use the Warn button, but that appears to be only a necessity in EotW. Why? Because none of the current staff even like to go in there. The possible solutions then are to get rid of the forum entirely, yell at the mods/admins to start looking in the forum at least, or promote new mods who would do it. You should definitely NOT rely solely on the members for any part of the running of the forums.

[RSL]

So we agree to promote Raistlin and Cloud No.9 as our new EoTW moderators?

[Raistlin]

Unless you want me to start banning people, that would not be a wise move.

[-N-]

DO IT DO IT DO IT xDDD

[Raistlin]

Neel would be the first to go.

[edczxcvbnm]

There is actually no problem as long as everyone knows when to click on the warn button.

People would know if you guys would come up with 100% defined rules that are not open to interpertation. Only then would anyone know when and when not to use it. Flaming and Spam are all subject to personal opinion.

[Big D]

Any rule is subject to interpretation. How can you make a definitive list of what constitutes "flaming", for instance? You get a basic rule, with a basic definition, then apply it as seems appropriate to the circumstances. Problem is, there's always a grey area of borderline cases - those are what test the definition.

[Raistlin]

Exactly. And it is up to the staff to interpret and enforce the rules - NOT the members. The warn button is a helpful feature, but it should not be relied on explicitly.

[Del Murder]

People would know if you guys would come up with 100% defined rules that are not open to interpertation. Only then would anyone know when and when not to use it. Flaming and Spam are all subject to personal opinion.

Feel free to use the button according to your own opinion and interpretaion, then, and if nothing happens, you'll know we don't agree with it.

And now to read the other three pages, as I have been away for the weekend and am always interested to see Raistlin and the Feedback gang overdebate an issue.

[Raistlin]

The point is that the staff should not rely on the Warn button to moderate an entire forum for them.

[Yamaneko]

U.S. Constitution = four pages

E.U. Constitution = bigger than the Bible

[edczxcvbnm]

EDIT: This is really in reference to what Big D said but people posted a lot from then to now.

Your wrong. There are rules that are not open for interpertation such as say....going out of bounds in football. You are either on the line or not. If the ref calls it out and you know you were in. Challenge it and they watch the replay and everything and then make the call to keep or over turn it.

Now that I proved you wrong on ANY rule is subject to interpetation...I guess I can say 'DUH' to the rest and say 'That is my point and that is why people will never really know when to press the warn button so don't expect people to know.'

Then I can end it all by saying something ed like such as 'Jackass' or 'Burnout lightbulb?!% ;/' and have people wonder about why he said such a wierd thing and why ed said 'saying something ed-like' when he is ed. The mysteries of the world compel you?

Okay. I am done being entirely stupid now ;d

[eestlinc]

the staff don't run the forums, the members do. We just try to keep things in line.

[Raistlin]

the staff don't run the forums, the members do. We just try to keep things in line.

That's bull and you know it.

EoFF isn't - and shouldn't be - a democracy.

[Del Murder]

I think what champ means is that the members dictate the tone and maturity level of the boards, while we just enforce the rules.

Anyway, I disagree with Leeza and think that deleting the forum would not cause too much trouble. Political discussion would start popping up in GC but then it would get diluted by all the spammers people having 'fun'. I think it would solve two problems. Lighten up the politcal talk and get some serious discussion back in GC.