Ok, first, I'm not resorting to personal insults because you killed my argument, because, quite frankly, you didn't. You ignored my argument, and have continued to ignore it. Besides, there was only one thing that could possibly be viewed as a personal insult, and that's the statement that you have an incredibly thick skull. I wasn't meaning that to be insulting, I was just trying to point out that you were still failing to realize the point that we were trying to make. I probably should have taken into account that the truth hurts, but...Originally Posted by Cuchulainn
Don't resort to personal insults because I kill your argument. You're lucky I'm not a post warner. My points stands tall and needs not reitterated despite your insults and jadded repeatitions. The mere suggestion that killing virtually every citizen of 2 major Japanese cities was saving Japanese lives too is, quite frankly, hilarious, and an argument so below my mental stature I'd need eyes & ears on my ankles to see & hear it. Japan was on the brink of collapse anyway, General Tojo was already ousted & a civil government was coming into play. It have good ol GI lives but in the name of all that is holy don't defend the nukes with a holier than thou standpoint.Japan couldn't win. We could, and we did. We obtained peace at the minimum loss of human life possible. THAT'S the concept that you are supposed to be realizing. Oh, and don't even suggest that we should have surrendered to end the war.Unless you were Russian.
And if the Japanese won they'd have peace, what concept exactly? Do you believe Imperial Japan wanted eternal war? The concept that's hard to grasp is the 'killing for peace' concept as it's dished out very selectively by victorious nations. Don't misunderstand me, I was not, am not, against the bombings. It was a weighed military strike which saved GI lives. But dress it up in combats, not a white robe & halo.
I haven't tried to give it a white robe or a halo. It was a military strike, and none of us are trying to argue that it was an angelic thing to do. But make no mistake, it ended the war and brought peace, and it did a lot more than just save GI lives. Stop denying that and maybe we'll stop trying to force that idea through your thick skull so hard.
As to your extraordinarily idiotic arguement, yes, wiping out two Japanese cities saved the lives of far more Japanese than not dropping the bombs would have. That's two cities out of what? Hundreds? Possibly more than hundreds? Had the war continued there would have been far more Japanese killed than there were. Your total inability to even consider this as an argument is inexcusable.
