Beautifull

[assemblage]

also...since when was Garden one of the first vehicles ever created? O_o did they say that in the information section of the menu and i just skipped over it, or.....??

[Skyblade]

Oh yes, one other thing. Why did you completely ignore my points about you being the only one who was capable of properly interpreting these important plot events?

Wait, I've got it! "X" isn't Dr. Odine, it's the game designers! They planned out everything in the game, including the world! While this may seem self evident to those of us with a brain, we shouldn't take for granted that Future Esthar possesses one...

[Christmas]

The exceptions were Esthar and some others.

Galbadia/FH-You can´t go from FH to Galbadia on foot.
There is nothing on the game suggesting someone ever did.

There is also NOTHING on the game suggesting someone didn't.Anyway....

They only cross it on trains.

No. Someone that live in Timber around 20 years ago went on a jogging marathon and jog all the way from Galbadia to Esthar.

There is a great wind near the Galbadia edge of the bridge.
This wind is so strong that people can´t walk toward them.
Only fast strong trains and ships can go through it.
This wind also exist near Ballamb and FH.People even feels a breeze coming from it.If you try to go to FH through Galbadia a wind will blow you out.

We have flood, earthquake, ruins now we have wind. No there is no wind. Dun you know? Deling declared that he is willing to make peace with Esthar when he is first make president. Then he allow people to use the FH bridge to cross over to Esthar. Traders and Travellers had used the bridge to cross over to Esthar but whether they find Esthar is another thing. Oh my.....YOU DIDN'T KNOW????

Trabia/Esthar-As I explained earlier the red line is the real thing and not the blue line.
The red line pass on the middle of Trabia Crater.
You can´t overpass this section by foot nor with the Garden.

Let me tell you this, during the sorceress war, many people fled Esthar and journeyed to Trabia by the mountain path and crossed the TRABIA CRATER to some spot near the Trabia garden's region and settled there.

The Garden will use it´s special technology spending a lot of energy (Reserve steam pressure) and the gauge will go berserk.
The gauge will go berserk every time it passes through a line.
However most of the lines were on the sea and the gauge is covered by water.
On the line between Winhill and Galbadia the gauge will not go berserk because the Garden needs to spend less energy.The Garden is one of the first vehicles ever created.

NO!!!! Dun you know? The garden is powered by a system called the Zero Genesis System. The Zero Genesis System is the most advanced system used by the Centra for their moving shelters ages ago. Up till now, the scientists in Esthar still couldn't figure how it works. This special system enable the Centra shelters to move anyway they want without any worrys from things like flying missiles coming straight at you nor energy shortage cause it is able to provide unlimited energy through means that we will let the Esthar's scientists disclose it when they found out. The Zero Genesis System is one of the reasons why the Gardern is able to dodge the missiles and also it is said that the Zero Genesis system never go haywire regardless of what happen.That is why it can take the garden anywhere they want. DUN YOU KNOW?????

More advanced vehicles were able to overpass this problem.

Advanced vehicles are not installed with the Zero Genesis system.

Balamb/Galbadia-No one is crazy enough to go through the tunnel.People would be smashed if a train comes.Even if they do they will notice something strange.

Oh my....Let me tell you this. Around 5 years ago, a monster attacked the railway system and damaged it. Workers had to walk all the way through the tunnels to the other end to repair it. Why in the world did you miss all this??????????

Flood backups

FH-Already gave a backup

What backup?

DSRC-I don´t think there was an underwater civilization on this section.
The region was flooded.But this civilization lived on surface not underwater.

So? Why aren't they included since it is a civilization?

Vascaroon painted the "flood" paint on Ulti´s castle after Ellone send his consciousness to the future.
He knows the castle would be flooded underwater.

Once again I repeat myself the paintings cannot be used as anyone can have their own interpretations as I said ages ago.

And if you want to said that my points had no proof, I will said that all my points had as much backings as YOURS.

[crazybayman]

Taken from another thread FE created, which was closed:

I thought it would be a good idea to make a new thread since this relates to both "Beautiful" and "Bug or not?"

The "color check" shape was seen inside the holographical walls.
It is reasonable to think that this panel control things related to holographical walls.
Were these lines holographic walls?
One thinks that this panel was just to adjust the color pallete of the walls.
But this could be a disguise.
This panel controls all the things related to the WORLDWIDE HOLOGRAPHIC WALLS SYSTEM.
I realized that these walls should cross unachiavable regions (UC regions) because otherwise people would find them.
That´s when I found they fit the world map pretty well if I use this restriction.

Seing the Ragnarok pass through the holographic walls I also realized that nearly all vehycles on the world uses this technology.

What´s the reason behind this system?
Sorry,I can´t reveal that.
That´s top secret.
Highly top secret.

But the colors on color check represent´s a range and it was on the physics of colors that lies the secret.

Highly top Secret?? None of it is true, or even remotely logical, so WHO CARES.
What kind of sane individual sits there and thinks up these retarded theories, which have NO basis in the game?

Get a life.

[BG-57]

Future Esthar, are you suggesting the lines connecting the edges of the hexagon to the center correspond to invisible holographic walls that divide up the continents?

If so, I wish you had said it earlier.

[Future Esthar]

No logic?If you can´t see the logic it´s because you are blind.I supplied the logic.
I challenge you to fit this shape on any other known map.Not even on 1000 different maps you will be able to fit it.

To Unknowns:
That´s not the thruth.It only says Laguna goes from FH to Esthar.

Deling allow them to travel to Esthar but no one would be crazy enough to cross the bridge since they could get smashed.People on Deling City travels using DC
station,people on Timber take the train on the correspondent station,etc...
Who said people ever crossed the crater?There were beaches on Trabia.People can go there using ships.
I don´t know whether your theories on Zero Genesis and railroad workers were sarcastic or game-based.If you are referring to Doomtrain I should say there were enough workers on Galbadia to fix the train.
I said the horizon bridge is too long requiring a low sea level.
If it was not an ancient civilization then what was it?Aliens?
My guess:Centra civilization.

To skyblade-Then do it.I take my effort so it´s fair to ask you to take also.
Don´t say to me the triangle on the middle would fit Bermudas Triangle,Ah,Ah,Ah.
X is not Dr.Odine.
I said on the other thread that the lines are holographic walls.
X performed the Lunar Cry first and then created the walls.
To assemblage-The centra shelter is the most ancient vehicle ever created,isn´t it?

[G SpOtZ]

lemme get this straight. Square made this game have a completely hidden plot that can only be found with silly assumptions (like the 'ruins' or whatever where FH was build) and that only YOU can make sense of? do us all a favor and throw away ur ffviii. or sell it. cuz nothing good is coming of it when you play it lol. just a buncha crackpot theoories with very little or no logic, and you say things like "it's a secret" or "i won't tell u now, you have to figure it out" because you don't even have a clue of what ur talking about and how ur going to back it up. sad...

[Future Esthar]

Not on a million years.I love FF8.It´s my favorite game of all times.
Yes BG-57,not only the inner lines but also the outer were invisible holographic walls.
By the way,let us discuss this here since the other thread was closed.
Look at Crazybayman´s quote or the thread itself for further information.

[G SpOtZ]

ionno bout u guys, but i think us arguing against future esthar is just gonna make him continue with his theories. therefor i'm done with this thread. not even gonna touch it. bye bye.

[Skyblade]

Future Esthar, either start to logically argue about your theories, or I will petition to have all of your threads closed, since they are nothing but a plauge that is drastically lowering the standards of this forum.

Show some evidence indicating how your theories can be the only possible correct interpretation of the way things play out, or start at least acknowledging the views of others.

Also, don't keep secrets about your theories. The entire point of posting a thread like this is to hold meaningful discussion. It is extremely hard to do that when you hold back major pieces of information. Either supply the evidence, or admit that you don't have it. You started this so that people could discuss your theories. So give them something to discuss. If you don't, then this thread no longer has a point and I will ask for it to be closed as well.

[assemblage]

cmon, spotz, touch the thread again, it needs you

The "color check" shape was seen inside the holographical walls.
It is reasonable to think that this panel control things related to holographical walls.
Were these lines holographic walls?
One thinks that this panel was just to adjust the color pallete of the walls.
But this could be a disguise.
This panel controls all the things related to the WORLDWIDE HOLOGRAPHIC WALLS SYSTEM.
I realized that these walls should cross unachiavable regions (UC regions) because otherwise people would find them.
That´s when I found they fit the world map pretty well if I use this restriction.

Seing the Ragnarok pass through the holographic walls I also realized that nearly all vehycles on the world uses this technology.

What´s the reason behind this system?
Sorry,I can´t reveal that.
That´s top secret.
Highly top secret.

sorry, but from my "unique" point of view, it sounds like you think you're one of the programmers of the game and are challenging us to see this "secret logic" of yours. skyblade is right, you made this thread to discuss these theories, and if you keep these little secrets, it really doesn't work as well as you hope. it also annoys people like me to no end. besides, it's really not a secret. if we were to find out this "top secret"...thing, whatever it is, and take it to another MB, it's not like anyone would believe that there's a completely different, hidden plot in the game.

[crazybayman]

To FE: Honestly, would you just shut up about this nonsense?

No logic?If you can´t see the logic it´s because you are blind.I supplied the logic.
I challenge you to fit this shape on any other known map.Not even on 1000 different maps you will be able to fit it.

No. I'd never do anything as stupid as that. Its a complete waste of time.
And YOU are the blind one. In case you haven't noticed, none of your retarded "theories" are consistent with the game. You have supplied NO logic.

I challenge you to ask someone at Square what they think about your theories.

Oh, wait, I know your response to that:
"OMG, NO!! I COULD NEVER DO THAT!!!!"
That's because your a chicken-$hit, and you know that these are so lame and pointless, that you wouldn't dare ask the creators of the game.

I'm not going to even start to rebuttle your points, because its all just so ridiculous and pointless.

Tool.

lemme get this straight. Square made this game have a completely hidden plot that can only be found with silly assumptions (like the 'ruins' or whatever where FH was build) and that only YOU can make sense of? do us all a favor and throw away ur ffviii. or sell it. cuz nothing good is coming of it when you play it lol. just a buncha crackpot theoories with very little or no logic, and you say things like "it's a secret" or "i won't tell u now, you have to figure it out" because you don't even have a clue of what ur talking about and how ur going to back it up. sad...

There you go.

I should seriously just stop reading his (FE's) $hit. Knowing that there's someone out there who's stupid enough dream this up, and then try to push this crap onto other people just irritates me to no end.

do us all a favor and throw away ur ffviii. or sell it. cuz nothing good is coming of it when you play it...

Now THAT'S a good idea.

Future Esthar, either start to logically argue about your theories, or I will petition to have all of your threads closed, since they are nothing but a plauge that is drastically lowering the standards of this forum.

Agreed.

Show some evidence indicating how your theories can be the only possible correct interpretation of the way things play out, or start at least acknowledging the views of others.

Also, don't keep secrets about your theories. The entire point of posting a thread like this is to hold meaningful discussion. It is extremely hard to do that when you hold back major pieces of information. Either supply the evidence, or admit that you don't have it. You started this so that people could discuss your theories. So give them something to discuss. If you don't, then this thread no longer has a point and I will ask for it to be closed as well.

Agreed.

[Laugh at face of Danger]

head imploded at the sight of the pictures, but Unknowns and Crazybayman have it sussed...again!

[Christmas]

To Unknowns:
That´s not the thruth.It only says Laguna goes from FH to Esthar.

Deling allow them to travel to Esthar but no one would be crazy enough to cross the bridge since they could get smashed.People on Deling City travels using DC
station,people on Timber take the train on the correspondent station,etc...

All the trains running along FH bridge is destroyed in the war so Traders and travellers must travel there by foot. DUN U KNOW?????

Who said people ever crossed the crater?There were beaches on Trabia.People can go there using ships.
I don´t know whether your theories on Zero Genesis and railroad workers were sarcastic or game-based.

As "game based" as yours I must said. Anyway. people crossed from Esthar to Trabia by foot.

If you are referring to Doomtrain I should say there were enough workers on Galbadia to fix the train.

I am not talking about Doomtrain.The workers had to go deep into the undersea tunnel to fix all possible damages, also the whole railway stretching from Galbadia to Balamb is DAMAGED. SO THEY HAD TO WALK ALONG THE WHOLE RAILWAY IN THE UNDERWATER TUNNEL TO THE OTHER END TO FIX AND INSPECT ALL AREAS.

I said the horizon bridge is too long requiring a low sea level.

No, it isn't.

If it was not an ancient civilization then what was it?Aliens?

I said if this is a civilization, then why isn't in included in the hexagon?

To assemblage-The centra shelter is the most ancient vehicle ever created,isn´t it?

No. The Centra created cars and all this craps before creating the centra shelter which enable them to go to other continents. DUN YOU KNOW??????

And I repeat again, all my points are as "game based" as yours.

[BG-57]

I feel the part about the lines corresponding to holographic walls should have been posted near the beginning of this thread. That's a crucial part of your thesis Future Esthar.

If you want your theories to be accepted, you'll need to clearly state all the majors parts. It's one thing to disagree with a theory but quite another to not even understand it.

Still, the pictures were pretty.