Convicted sex offender legally buys house next to daycare

[Shlup]

I didn't say you typed facts; I was talking about statistics of repeat sex offenders. Like I said in an earlier post, there is no cure for a sex offender. "Serving their time" is just a punishment that we hope, because we currently have no alternative means, scares them enough to prevent them from doing it again. Which it rarely does; the vast majority of sex offenders repeat their crime after they get out of jail. Even the guy in the article went back to jail after six years for committing another sex crime after being let out.

I'm not saying not criminals should be given a second chance. I'm not saying everyone will re-committ their crimes. I'm saying that the risk that a sex offender will committ another sex crime is so high that it's unreasonable to give them a no-conditions second chance. The only reason this man is buying the house legally is because of a loophole in the wording of the judge's ruling.

You sound like you think this guy slipped and his hand fell in a little girl's panties. Children don't get molested by accident; they're usually very well calculated crimes. Crimes that will be repeated. I won't condemn the man to jail for the rest of his life (not at this point at least) but for smurfs sake why would anyone be okay with him moving next to a child care center?

[Tidus5]

Dont worry i lost all respect for you shulp when you stopped thinking that they are people too.

Hah! Well, thats ok, because I'm pretty sure that anyone with half a brain would agree with what me and shulp are saying.

respect points for shulp: +1
respect points for lionx: -1

[Lionx]

Dont think that what you say isnt true too, he very might well do it again. But i guess i am too forgiving a person, but thats me, and i feel that if he wants to he could. Even if it is a little suspicious since if i screwed up somehow doing that the last thing i would probably want is more eyes on me. However that doesnt mean that he doesnt have the right to move in.

I couldnt say that the person WILL do it(will = 100%), statistics show that it is more than likely to, however we dont know if the person is one of the more than likely and if he legally bought a house there i am sorry to say that he can live there if he wants. All people have to do is keep a closer eye. Again i said i understand the uneasiness, but no one has a right really to boot him out of his house.

I am however disturbed that he was brought back in after the first arrest, but in any case what i mean by second chance applies pretty much in general about crimminals that want to really straighten themselves out as after all people do make mistakes.

Tidus: Just because someone has different opinions than you doesnt mean i am stupid. I just did not like her way of direspecting someone for having different opinions, hence the remark. If she really doesnt like that then i will apologize, but that still doesnt make anyone more or less of a brain.

[Shlup]

There are very few instances where I am not accepting of other's opinions. This is one of them. Hell, this is the big one.

Why is it everyone else's responsibility to babysit the repeat sex offender? How many children have to be effected before we can say enough? Seriously, how many children is this man's freedom to live on that street worth to you? We're not talking about a child's life versus his life, we're talking about the life of several children versus him just plain living near children. He may be a person, but so are the children whose lives he's potentially ruined, and so are those who he is likely to abuse when faced with dozens of available school children.

[eestlinc]

the problem is child molesters don't commit their crimes out of disregard for the law. They commit their crimes out of sexual desire, or out of some subconscious sickness that is very difficult to control. Part of the healing process for child molesters should be to be kept out of easy reach of children. It's for their own good.

[nik0tine]

nik, I... I don't know how to even respond to that kind of... I don't even know. Every bit of respect I had for you is gone. I can't believe there are people out there who think sexual abuse against children is no big deal.

When did I say it was no big deal? I'm just saying that if you are going to bitch about property value, don't turn around and support publicizing sex offenders. If you think it's worth it, then there is no need to complain. If you don't, you never should have supported it in the first place. See where I'm coming from?

[Shlup]

No I don't see where you're coming from.

[Optium]

let he or she among you who is free from sin cast the first stone.

These are people who are molesting children. I may not be sin free but I will gladly step up and cast the first smurfing stone right in their sick goddamn face!

Somewhat ironic seeing as that quote was used against those who would
have stoned a sex offender.

.opt

PS, Those of you who are giving and taking respect points need to
loosen/grow up.

[nik0tine]

If people are going to bitch about property value decreasing, then they shouldn't support publicizing sex offenders to the whole world. I don't know how else I can describe it. If people don't want to take the 'bad' with the 'good' then I don't know what to tell them.

[Shlup]

Somewhat ironic seeing as that quote was used against those who would
have stoned a sex offender.

.opt

I suppose. >_>

If people are going to bitch about property value decreasing, then they shouldn't support publicizing sex offenders to the whole world. I don't know how else I can describe it. If people don't want to take the 'bad' with the 'good' then I don't know what to tell them.

I guess. I don't really see property values as an argument in this situation anyway though; it was just a flippant comment someone made.

[Hawkeye]

...it wasnt a comment, but more of a question!

[Shlup]

*goes back and reads the post*

Oh yeah. It was just a question, not even a statement or argument.

[udsuna]

so no one belives that a person can change?

The statistics show that it's so unlikely in this case that it's not worth the risk it poses to our children.

Actually, statistics show that EVERY child molester will repeat, even after prison, unless something physically prevents them from such activity. You cut off their balls, they won't... break their spine, thus permamently paralyzing them, they won't... put a knife in them a few times and let them bleed to death, and they won't... lock them up for the rest of their lives, they won't... traumatize them so thoroughly that all they can do is sit in a corner and hug their legs all day, and they won't. But let them out with the ability to molest again, and they will. Every. Single. ****ing. Time. Without. Exception.

That's not to say some activities that fall under the catagory of "sexual offence" will necessarily be something that is in the catagory of child molesting. But child molesters truly, somehow, believe their perversion is "love".... and our science just CANNOT break them of that. Disturbing, but true. Maybe at some time in the future these creatures (so far as I'm concerned, they are NOT human) can be somehow controlled... but until that day, lock them up, throw away the key, then push the cage into a lake.


Respect points for Schlup: somewhere in the mid to upper 50s.

No need to get personal, so don't. -Necronopticous

neuter? you mean castrate? if it's true it wouldn's be a great suprise, torture, capital punishmentm, castration. it all fits into the same line. a sick sick horrible line but not that much difference from the usual.

A punishment to a crime should be no worse than the harm cause by the crime itself. Molestation leads to sexual disfunction, drug abuse, and suicide (only to name a few).... I've seen what it does, and there is no act that a human could perform on these things to properly punish them for their actions.


Oh, and just in case no one caught it the previous times:

THERE IS NO CURE, OR EVEN EFFECTIVE TREATMENT

[Excelsior]

im so sick of this smurfing criminal rights bull too. obviously, a common thief or whatever isnt that bad, but once you decide you want to smurf some kid and smurf em up for life, you lose all rights in my opinion. i dont care that your a smurfing homo sapien, your not a person in my opinion. your just a stupid sick mothersmurfer who needs to get his smurfing ass beat. why the smurf should i give a smurfing about any of these goddamn mothersmurfing dumb smurfers. smurf!!!


phew, ok, i got that out.

[GooeyToast]

Why don't you swear a little more? I'm sure that will make everything better. :rolleyes2

Anyways, I'm on both sides of the argument here. I agree that him living by the school isn't such a great idea, and that the judge should have made sure that this was not an option, but as it turns out, it is.

However, with all the goddamn media surrounding all this, and all the protection that parents are surely going to give their kids, I think the molestor would be stupid to even attempt it again, what with him knowing what will happen if he does. Of course, if he craves young meat that much, and punishment isnt on his mind at all, then we have a problem.

I agree that the police should do frequent checkups, monitor him very closely, and do everything else they can to assure he doesnt molest anyone else. That being said, there's no need to kick him out of his property just for a possible fear of repitition. And I'm sure if the guy wanted to bone so badly, he could easily seek out a helpless kid somewhere away from the school, which actually might be a worse thing considering all the protection you get from your neighborhood is gone, and have his way. In fact, if he never moved by the school, the media wouldnt be so big and therefore the parents much less protective of their kids.

The media always brings out the worst in humanity. People feed for fear. Just plane old good news never seems to fit the bill, so we bring up stuff like this instead. Yes, it is a very big issue that needs to be dealed with, but nobody is perfect and people make mistakes, no matter how big they may be. Molesting is no shoplifiting, but it's not like he went on a killing spree. Some people have problems, and for that, they deserve whatever possible treatment they can get.