Greatest Civilisation ever?

[lordblazer]

I don't really think there is a "greatest" civilization. Great yes.. but greatest? nah.

All civs had ups and downs.

Also current western civilization doesn't keep its information secret.

Hmm.. I am sure the US keeps plenty secret from it's people. Albeit it is prolly less then what was kept unknowable in the past.. but it ain't gone from our world yet.

I mean with the advances in technology blah blah blah. lol Trust me lol we don't keep thats tuff secret. But you dohave to pay money to tap into that type of info...(college.)

The romans didn't have many educated people.

[bipper]

All civilizations have grown and learned a great deal from eachother. I think the US has several good points, but I would like to see the gov't take care of more of the citizens basic needs as far as health and better education goes.

It seems that the modern idea of a great civilization is flowing towards individualism. So to me the world empire of tommorrow will be the greatest After that of wisconsin of course

Bipper

[Madame Adequate]

but I would like to see the gov't take care of more of the citizens basic needs as far as health and better education goes.

It seems that the modern idea of a great civilization is flowing towards individualism.

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[Medi]

I wonder about the Egyptians. How did they carry those 1-ton blocks for their pyramids?

[bipper]

It should comput just fine - I think the government should take care of medical expence, and education - this does not affect individualism.. well too much. Just to see the social neceseties taken care of would be a step forward imo.

I don't see how it can't compute... time for an upgrade?

Bipper

[ShunNakamura]

I mean with the advances in technology blah blah blah. lol Trust me lol we don't keep thats tuff secret. But you dohave to pay money to tap into that type of info...(college.)

The romans didn't have many educated people.

I am still fairly certian the gov keeps at least some technological secrets.. Course I can't verify it(it wouldn't be secret if I could).. but as My own MILF said "Of course, there are still state secrets and the like and I doubt that'll ever change, and I don't endorse the majority of them being kept either" I just believe that in these stat secrets may be some techno info.

Then again I have been refered to as being paranoid so it could just be that. But think about human nature. It may not be the whole government.. but rather a small section of it. Now I sound like a conspiritist.. and that is bad. I just think it is easily possible that we don't konw all that the gov(or sections of it) do.. and that includes available(and how to make) certian technologies.


Of course this has no baring on whether or not time is better now then in the past. It is definately better. Though I wonder about the culture that we now have.... course I wonder about most cultures.. hence my believe that their is no greatest.. only greats.

[Teek]

Modern-day western capitalism and individualism offers more freedom of choice, in lifestyle, and of wealth than any other system which has ever been attempted. As I believe in the importance of the individual over all else; The USA, which at least has lower taxes than Canada, the UK, and most likely Australia and Japan as well.

basically yah

[Itsunari 2000]

It's a shame when a civilization which thrives on hypocrisy,greed and arrogance is considered " great ".

[tomamar04]

UK in the 19th century. First nation to have an industrial revolution, and ruled 1/3 of the world...until we gave it all back.

[Lionx]

Chinese people lasted over 5000 years and they are still here, many nations rise and fall, while theres still a basic Chinese premise over in Asia not to mention just about every person, Japanese, Korean etc, migrated from China so i pretty much in general terms, consider them pretty much the same. First to do alot of things, other people then improve on it..like the pizza >> We had meat pies then italian people changed it. And i still like meat pies more x_x; haha..

[Teek]

It's a shame when a civilization which thrives on hypocrisy,greed and arrogance is considered " great ".

Yeah, Imperial China was pretty bad.

[nik0tine]

In terms of power and control, it was probably the Romans.

[Itsunari 2000]

It's a shame when a civilization which thrives on hypocrisy,greed and arrogance is considered " great ".

Yeah, Imperial China was pretty bad.

I wasn't talking about Imperial China.I was referring to the hugely inflated sense of faith bordering on overblown nationalism that some people seem to place in their civilization.

[Teek]

I wasn't talking about Imperial China.I was referring to the hugely inflated sense of faith bordering on overblown nationalism that some people seem to place in their civilization.

I would agree. I mean, my love for America isn't based on faith. I love it based off of rational, provable facts. I hate how some people have faith in civilizations that clearly weren't exactly the pinnacle of human reason or ability.

[ShunNakamura]

Well.. I doubt the US is at that "pinnacle". I doubt any nation/civ is truely at the pinnacle.

Easy way for me to say. Find a civ where everyone was happy, content, prosperous, blah..blah... and that I will call the greatest civ.