America for the win?

[Madame Adequate]

This article may or may not have been posted on EoFF before - I have absolutely no idea what to search for to find it, and at any rate I've always been taught necro'ing threads is bad - so I thought I would put it up here for people to digest. It is quite long, and it is not perfect (He gives a slightly skewed view of the US' contribution in WW2, which was massive and significant indeed, but I don't think necessarily 'beat' facism - nonetheless, if it wasn't for the US the Russkies would have strolled right in.), but I think it's a very interesting and enlightening piece that certain people would like and certain others would benefit from reading.

[Rye]

Mr. MILF, I am so happy that SOMEONE posted SOMETHING that's not anti-american. I sohuld leave this thread now, before the anti-american hordes come to say that the USA is pure evil and such.

America isn't perfect, but no country is. America is a nice place though.

[Madame Adequate]

For my part, I'm glad to see a young (ie teenage) American who isn't anti-American.

[Sephex]

This is kind of off the subject, but can you really blame young people for not having faith in the US these days? It's hard enough for me not to hate this country completely.

[Lindy]

America is just as good or bad as any other country, it's just the fact that it's so large that the numbers are multiplied up. In relative terms, there's just as much stupidity, corruption and hopeless lack of humanity as any other country, just in absolute terms, there's more so it makes itself more apparent.

Of course then, there's just as much intelligence, compassion and charity too, just why bother focusing on the good parts when negativity is far more widespread?

[eestlinc]

I'm not anti-American, but I am ashamed of the current administration and turned off by our consumer culture. However, the fact that America can still be such a force for good despite our many faults speaks volumes about how great the country truly is.

[Rye]

America is just as good or bad as any other country, it's just the fact that it's so large that the numbers are multiplied up. In relative terms, there's just as much stupidity, corruption and hopeless lack of humanity as any other country, just in absolute terms, there's more so it makes itself more apparent.

Of course then, there's just as much intelligence, compassion and charity too, just why bother focusing on the good parts when negativity is far more widespread?

You win.

[Cloud No.9]

i think there us a difference between being anti-america(n) and anti-american(s).

i am the former. and it has more to do with the government and corporations than the people. who can be as charitable or as nice as they want but i will still hate what their country stands for.

[edczxcvbnm]

Which is?

[tomamar04]

i think there us a difference between being anti-america(n) and anti-american(s).

i am the former. and it has more to do with the government and corporations than the people. who can be as charitable or as nice as they want but i will still hate what their country stands for.

Same here.

[Cloud No.9]

"Which is?"

the difference is rather huge. i can say "my god noth korea is such a crap place and i loathe the idea of it." this isnt saying anything about the north korean people.

[tomamar04]

I was saying I have nothing against American people or anything, but their government, and attitude to world affairs.

[eestlinc]

or rather the attitude of our current administration.

[Mr. Mojo Risin]

I disagree.

The political and the personal are inseparable. If you were to change N. Korea's politics(or lackof) than its people would change accordingly. Same here in the USA.

[Endless]

"Which is?"

the difference is rather huge. i can say "my god noth korea is such a crap place and i loathe the idea of it." this isnt saying anything about the north korean people.

I understood Ed's "which is" being a question related to your "what their country stands for".