Can't remember myself saying that, but oh well, banned is banned.Originally Posted by Mihhailovitš
That was so funny I forgot to laugh.
Can't remember myself saying that, but oh well, banned is banned.That was so funny I forgot to laugh.
This thread is awesome......
Dramatic Clap everyone
bravo
My Theories
Might as well.
:twocents:
Here are my FFVIII Theories:
1) The GF Eden is a Garden. The evidence is that she looks like an organic version of a Garden. Note the upper disc. Also the garden of Eden was the GF's namesake.
2) The painting puzzle in Ultimecia's castle refers to Diablos. The solution involves a Messenger and Diablos' attack is called Dark Messenger. If the garden that the puzzle refers to is Eden, then Diablos may represent the devil that disguised itself a serpent and corrupted man. Quite an appropriate theme for Ultimecia.
3) The GFs are future versions of the main characters. This is based on a passing resemblance between some of the main characters and some of the GFs. I really doubt that this one is true, but it's fun to think about.
4) It occured to me but to other people independantly as well that Tiamat may be a corrupted future Bahamut. The major evidence is the similar attacks (Mega Flare versus Dark Flare) and the identical character design in different colors. Again, this is unlikely since Tiamat is traditionally a boss monster quite different from Bahamut in other FFs. For one thing, it usually has several heads, like a hydra.
Last edited by BG-57; 08-24-2005 at 05:51 AM.
Maybe. But sometime it also wonder what is carbuncle, doomtrain....etc and where do they come from and why are they here?
But if you are talking about the physical appearance of Eden, then it do look a bit like of a garden.
Here is an interpretation I have in one of the older threads.
Anyone can have their interpretatons of their own like future Esthar having his but since there is nothing much to verify it, I can't say much about those pictures only that it make the boss appear that's all.
Well, maybe you should specific which GF looks like who.
Like if Squall didn't get Bahamut in the past and so in the future Ultimecia captured Bahamut and turn it into Tiamat?
But like why Ultima Weapon and Omega Weapon look alike because they are both weapons so they look alike or Omega Weapon is the future version of Ultima Weapon if Squall didn't kill it in the past?
Maybe both Tiamat and Bahamut are both of the same species of GF that's why they look alike?
Species of GF?
Now THAT sounds interesting
:joey:
It occured to me after posting that the garden could be Balamb, so that interpretation of Diablos in the lamp fits as well in a more specific sense.
Here's my original suggested master-pet pairings:
Squall -> Griever
Rinoa -> Shiva
Zell -> Ifrit
Selphie -> Carbuncle
Quistis -> Siren
Irvine -> Alexander
Seifer -> Diablos
Raijin -> Quetzecoatl
Fujin -> Pandemonia
Some people took exception to the Irvine pairing, but there's no GF I could find a closer resemblance. Others thought a less evil-looking GF would be more suitable for Seifer.
Of course what better GF for Selphie than a bouncy green bunny?
There's no explanation of who Tiamat is junctioned to in the present, but it would be natural that there are other GF's out there that the party doesn't get.
I've considered the link between Ultima Weapon and Omega weapon, but what I don't get if they're the same monster then where did Cloud's sword go?
I think that Seifer should be Bahamut and Irvine should be Odin.
Happy Wakka Day, Ya!
That was good to read! *runs to Toys R Us for an ice arrow*
roffles me!
I guess it sound absurd to you, but do you have anything in mind?Species of GF?
Now THAT sounds interesting
Do Rinoa seems "cold" to you as to represent her as Shiva?
I guess I agree on the Irvine pairing. But seem Irvine is a jolly guy and Cactuar seem to have a jolly face, why not Irvine and Cactuar.
But they do represent the character in a certain way.
Highly possible. If Squall and CO own all the GF, then what about the other SeeD. There is a high possiblily that there other SeeD too rely on GF.There's no explanation of who Tiamat is junctioned to in the present, but it would be natural that there are other GF's out there that the party doesn't get.
Why not think where do Cloud's sword came from in the first place. They can just give it the sword and just remove it from it. But there is no telling whether they are the same monster or not since there is nothing to verify it.I've considered the link between Ultima Weapon and Omega weapon, but what I don't get if they're the same monster then where did Cloud's sword go?
That theory is hilarious.
Rye made this!
I know you've already stated that the character -> GF theory is unlikely, but there are several things I would like to point out as regards this idea. First, the most common suggestion is that Squall is Griever (usually in conjunction with certain R=U theories). This, however, is in and of itself false, as we know that Ultimecia constructed Griever from Squall's thoughts.Here's my original suggested master-pet pairings:
Squall -> Griever
Rinoa -> Shiva
Zell -> Ifrit
Selphie -> Carbuncle
Quistis -> Siren
Irvine -> Alexander
Seifer -> Diablos
Raijin -> Quetzecoatl
Fujin -> Pandemonia
Some people took exception to the Irvine pairing, but there's no GF I could find a closer resemblance. Others thought a less evil-looking GF would be more suitable for Seifer.
Of course what better GF for Selphie than a bouncy green bunny?
This bit may seem out of context (and it is, as it was originally a reply to the idea that Ultimecia's Griever was not formed on the spot/Drawn from Squall's mind). In this case, though, the idea is clearly to demonstrate that Griever is not Squall. Having said that, the segment concerning Bahamut as a "legendary GF" suggests that at least some Guardian Forces are known, and can be demonstrated to be static. As I see it, at least, this theory can't work.
It's almost certain that GF's exist that the party never encounters. Selphie herself makes mention of junctioning a GF before coming to Balamb (this was included to explain her memory loss, although we can use it here to suggest the existence of other Guardian Forces).
I've always liked the notion that the uncorrupted Tiamat could have been Selphie's mysterious GF; unfortunately, there's no way to know.
They're not the same monster. Scanning Omega Weapon suggests that he is more powerful than Ultima Weapon, which in itself suggests differentiation between the two.
For that matter, Ultima Weapon can be destroyed before Time Compression is initiated, which would mean that, if they were the same, Omega Weapon would have already been destroyed. While the normal flow of time is distorted during TC, this event (defined before the distortion), would have already been locked in stone.
Your last comment concerning time compression in relation to Ultima being Omega is not entirely good I'm afraid. See, time compression was never actually completed, and since we know so little about it, it is impossible to tell if such a thing would happen before all of time was fully compressed.
But regardless, the scan info is a good enough proof for them not being the same.
BG-57, if you have some serious theories that you actually want to discuss, make a new thread for them. This awful thread is no place for them.
Seriously guys, this forum is cluttered enough with crazy theory threads, don't add to it with garbage like this.
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