C++

[Sepho]

The syntax is probably intimidating for those who choose to learn it as their first language. But it <i>is</i> powerful.

I was really dedicating myself to learning (more) C++ this summer, but web programming and coding in PHP specifically is, like, way more fun, and ended up taking all of my time.

[bipper]

isn't java basically C++ optimized for web?

You can almost say that Java is like what Visual Basic did to QBasic - only using C as a means. Java started out as a cool concept, but is just going downhill imo. Its like Sun wants to use Java to become the next microsoft... but Solaris is about as powered as old... old cheese. The Java ME platform is still great - oh i love it. Cellphone games pwn all!

Pretty much C++ is the best programming language ever. Hands down - no ifs ands or buts! HAHA! The only one which compares is C which is more standardized and holds a few mystical powers of its derivatives. All in all, C++ > anything else.

Oh and VB sucks - along with Microsoft language... c#, j++ etc


Bipper

[Yamaneko]

We have to wait for Unne to give his dissertation on Perl first.

[bipper]

Perl... lol.
To use that great saying from dodgeball; "Pearl is about as useful as a poopie flavored lolipop" lol

now I know it has its uses, but ugh.. I hate it

Bipper

[krissy]

perl is good for text manipulation but yeah i can't see playing a platformer made in perl ever

[eestlinc]

I was really dedicating myself to learning (more) C++ this summer, but web programming and coding in PHP specifically is, like, way more fun, and ended up taking all of my time.

But PHP blows. Or so I hear.

I remember when I learned Pascal back in the day. I should teach myself C++.

[Flying Mullet]

C++ is okay but I prefer working with Java.

[Drift]

I'm trying to learn C. trying to learn

[Sepho]

But PHP blows. Or so I hear.

What were the reasons given to you? As far as I'm concerned, PHP is the language to know for web programmers if they only wish to know one. It was designed specifically for use in parsing with HTML documents for making dynamic web pages, so while it can be used in other applications, it's use is limited, depending on how you define limited.

[Mr. Graves]

C++ isn't bad. I'm trying to learn it right now, and it's certainly seemed more user-efficent than Visual Basic. I'll be taking acourse on this in a few weeks. It should be fun. Maybe.

[bipper]

But PHP blows. Or so I hear.

I remember when I learned Pascal back in the day. I should teach myself C++.

Php is easily the greatest Server Side programming language to grace the web. Its extremley easy, and extremly stable. I know JSP, ASP.net, and PHP - the three major backends, and I prefer PHP's power and usablilty over the other two any day of the week. On top of all that, it is a ton easier to use. Open source, tons of packages, and its.. just sexy as hell. Pluz with the Zend engine - you can make it do soooooo much. And did i say it is sexy? Also since it has such a large population of developers promoting its use, when you need some help, or a library for a certain task, or even when choosing a database you can find a nearly unlimited score of resources on the net. For free!

visit bloodshed.net for a free windows gui for compiling c\C++ programs - on top of it all they also chave a pascal compiler

perl is good for text manipulation but yeah i can't see playing a platformer made in perl eve

Anything you can do wilth pearl you can do with most modern backends, without the limitations.

If you like C++, and have an extra HDD or computer; I would suggest getting to know the GNU compilers. They are even sexyier than PHP.

bipper

[Drift]

Do you know C. teach me C please!

[Odaisé Gaelach]

My programming skills go as far as QBASIC.

[Shoeberto]

Do you know C. teach me C please!

Don't bother with C. Go with C++.

And there's plenty of good programming tutorials online. Just download Dev-C++ (the link that bipper posted) and have at it.

[edczxcvbnm]

because people are lazy!!!

Yes we are.

I have used plenty of C++ but I am not a real big coder anymore and stupid stuff like VB gets my by all the time with what ever the hell I need to do...and do it fast without me needing to remember a whole lot of anything. VB = programming for lazy people...and I am very lazy

I am using Perl right now though and it is okay. I am using it for strictly file and string manipulation...so the previous statement stands true in my eyes :d

C++ as everyone has said is probably the still the best out there as it is so powerful and lets you do a whole lot of anything you damn well please and still manage to be efficent. My thing is that computers are so fast now and days that it really doesn't matter that much for effiency any more unless you are writing a 5 million line program...which I don't.

I forgot where I was going with this...probably something like use what you want depending on the situation. What I have learned is that no matter where you go there will always be people who say x sucks because y is better. It is all just a preference.