C++

[bipper]

A lot of it has to do with portablilty as well.

VB files are large, even though windows holds a million libraries for integrated on thier OS. (With this, i basically call it advanced scripting for windows. Nice to see .net brougt it up too oop level ... finally ) I still Like c/c++ because of its portablilty and power. I do a fair amount of OpenGL programmin and I find C to be a far better asset.

Also if your going to start learning a language I would reccomend C as it is a lot more basic (structure wise mind you) and has more of an influence on other languages pearl, php, etc than you will find with basic. C++ is fine and all but i think printf(); makes it easier to grasp the basic ideals of programming vs cout (I know you can still use printf on standard c++, but what tutorials out there do that? Dont answer... it was rhetorical lol)

Bipper

[NeoTifa]

the only programming language i know is basic. i learned that when i was only 8. (but i forgot half of it >.>) i anticipate my learning C++. i cant wait. right now i have no time.

[Dr Unne]

Well, you asked for it.

perl -le 'print q^=uu~-+=5-^^q=^^^^^^^^^='

[Kilrane]

i like C++ but enjoy working with java. graphics are much easier imo with java than with C++

[Sepho]

Well, you asked for it.

perl -le 'print q^=uu~-+=5-^^q=^^^^^^^^^='

It blinds us >_<

[Dr Unne]

Did you try to run it though?

[edczxcvbnm]

i like C++ but enjoy working with java. graphics are much easier imo with java than with C++

While I agree to an extent, my problem is that I find java to be more of a memory hog. Maybe it is just me though.

[Endless]

<pre> perl -le 'print q^.;,2~-+=5-~*11^^q=^^^^^^^^^^^^^^=' </pre>

[Mindflare]

I like C++, but fortunately (or unfortunately?) enough for me, I stopped paying attention to major programming languages some time ago. I'll stick to random markup languages. I'm pretty intent on learning PHP as well, but who knows if that'll actually happen any time soon.

In the end, I'm not patient enough to worry about programming. Sad.

[Flying Mullet]

i like C++ but enjoy working with java. graphics are much easier imo with java than with C++

While I agree to an extent, my problem is that I find java to be more of a memory hog. Maybe it is just me though.

Depends upon how you use it. If you're good with your garbage collection then C++ will be more efficient. But if you're lazy and don't do any garbage collection your code can get really messy really quick. One down side of Java that I've found is that it doesn't always handle garbage collection as auto-magically as the Java lovers boast.

[bipper]

Java is horrid, save for ME. I honestly dislike everything about the language. And garbage collection is for the most part a joke... try, catch, fumble

Graphics come easier in C++ when you really get into it. You can do a lot more, and using a lot less resources. Java makes the basics easy, but on the same hand eats up your resources faster than the bug you cought from that lats pron site you visited. Again, here with C++ its all about the libraries you use DirectX and OpenGl are easy to learn, and will give you a ton of tools to use. Lingo is pretty sweet as well! But a little more advanced.

Bipper

[edczxcvbnm]

That would explain why I always though Java was more of a memory hog. I was pretty good about garbage collecting for the most part so I know it got cleared out. I new Java had auto-garbage collect but I didn't think it was super iffy. I will take your word on it that it isn't all its cracked up to be...because it fits what I see

[Dr Unne]

<pre> perl -le 'print q^.;,2~-+=5-~*11^^q=^^^^^^^^^^^^^^=' </pre>

[Yamaneko]

[Endless]

Run both Unne and my line and you will see the light.