I want to talk to you about something.

[lordblazer]

Seriously, I mean, some cultures have their own features, like italian kids that blast my ear-drums everytime they say something, but Lordblazer, you really are talking this too far.

OMFG I was jsut talking aobut how different culture shave different views on certain things. Such as sanitation... Such as if oyu peed all over the stool at your parent's house and didn't clean the crap up you would get yelled at right?

ok
obviously my roomate wouldn't have. Now I didn't say ALL indians were dirty.I never said that.I just used an example of it because it actually smurfing happened and someone smurfing mentioned some crap on india. My whole damn point was to say that all cultures has its insults and that the only conclusion you cna come up with is people suck. Yeah ,... I mean WTF? why the hella reoyu guys so damn smurfing sensitive.


This is my last post int he eyes on world and me whatever hte heck this is fantasy.

I'm so pissed if I have typos you'll just have to stomach them.....

[Lionx]

So its ok to be racist to the people that are racist..? >_>;

[crashNUMBERS]

Racism sucks!! And not the member the .....umm.. The thing..Racism. well you know what I mean!!

[lordblazer]

So its ok to be racist to the people that are racist..? >_>;

which isn't what I'm saying.


I didn't say that .How the hell am I being racist.

how the hell can you have a non racial approach in a racism debate. Say that it sucks.If thats the case then close this damn smurfing thread right now becuase its a waste of space if people aren't ready to get together discuss the issues. Discuss why it exist. Discuss some of the stereotypes.Discuss some of the cultural facts which are true. Discuss culture clashes. I mentioned the clash between the japaneese and indian roomates.


Yeah the india guy pissed over the stoola nd didn't clean it up.Same iwth my indian roomate. Same with my cusin's indian roomate. Same with Bryan's indian roomate.

As I was saing the program was an INTERNATIONAL PROGRAM. So they werne't indian americans or whatever the hell.The fact that most of them didnt give a dman about the fact that they f up the toilet. Is a cultural thing. It jsut isn't nicked picked in their household in their family in their culture. Nothing agianst it. Its a rude gesture to us. I mean it was definately rule to my japaneese friend. Were cleaniness is a part of japaneese culture.

Now when I mentioned the indian store clerk. Yeah he really did that BS and a lot of foreigner's who arne't genuine about their ignorance of english. They really do that crap to avoid confrontation.

Those are Fing observational/studied things. Now I never said all indians or all foreigners or all japaneese are htis that and this. Whatever it is culture is what is reverd to the majority of that group. Which in turn the question is what sparks racism.
If yu want me to say blunt racist remarks I can give you that. But if oyu wanna bull me and say I'm being a damn racist go the smurf ahead.

[bipper]

There is a very fine line between racism and sterotyping. I think the main words would be outward hate and judgments being placed on a race based on sterotypes.

I think lordblazer is merely pointing out some of the reasons that some people are so.... racist towards other races. Just cause you notice a lot of blacks that get nailed for robbing a gas station doesn't make you racist. Talking about it doesn't. Typecasting that sterotype onto the entire race, makes you a racist. (at least imo)

Lordblazer basically expressed the few diplomates (metephorical) that he met in one situation - and that is what racism usually comes down too. Letting a first time, bad experience get to you. it sucks; I mean I have done it. I have indeed done some racist things. I live in wisconsin - I never really seen many black people growing up. Then I go to the St. Paul are in MN. you see some random black persuasion person walking down the road as you exit your car, you make damn sure your car is locked. It didn't take me long to overcome this subliminal racism, but I think we will all experience it to a degree.



Bipper

[Lionx]

Uh no i think i wasnt being clear, i was responding to this:

I'm asking you not to bash anyone. This thread is about racism, so bash the racists and not the races.

Sorry about that.

What bipper says is true, in this city in Cali there are more crimes commited by black people more than any other race somehow, and people are like >_> <_< >_> <_< alot when you see a black guy. It happens to me too and its not totally unjustified, and it does take some time to adjust and know that not every black guy will shoot you. Happens, took me a while too.

[lordblazer]

Uh no i think i wasnt being clear, i was responding to this:

I'm asking you not to bash anyone. This thread is about racism, so bash the racists and not the races.

Sorry about that.

What bipper says is true, in this city in Cali there are more crimes commited by black people more than any other race somehow, and people are like >_> <_< >_> <_< alot when you see a black guy. It happens to me too and its not totally unjustified, and it does take some time to adjust and know that not every black guy will shoot you. Happens, took me a while too.

bah when i went to the south when i saw another black guy i htought he'd do something to me lol. lol thats the south for ya lol.

Everyone is like that to black guys and i wasn't complaing to you about it. Dont thinky ou had me all sized up and think that I'm those easily offended blac people.I mena heck i get nervious. Black males get nervious over black males like "What are you gonna do?"

nothing big.
doubt its an issue over a crime. Heres the thing though... The media pumps everyone up on fearingthe black male. They only report the violent crimes of black males and the sex crimes white males and the serial killers white males. Man there are a lot of petty white thugs and a lot of black seriel killers out there.
That my firend is propaganda lol. Watch Bowling For Colubine.

also you should look into the creation of suburbia and what fueled it in the 50s into the early 60s.

BTW racism goes hand to hand iwth stereotyping. Except iwth steretyping you can do it with anything like saying all truckers bang their cousin's. Now thats a stereotype.

Anyway the hting is. If white america right now is all pumped up on being afraid of being clald a racist and also caling poeple a racist like we actually care. I mena heck I goto a white guy he makes a generalization and I laugh cuz its partly true. Anyway the guy gets scared and says "I'm not racist I have a black friend."

Bah a lot of white teens do it at my school. The person that white guy points out as his black friend.Well the black friend doesn't even know him. Or probaly just said hi and bye or saw him int he hall way one time the entire school year.

The whole point of that statement was saying. Why do we have to say "I'm not racist I have a friend."
I mean I never understood that for some reason. I mean why care if your called a racist or not? I mean your you and you know rather your a racist or not. Who cares what that other guy htinks of you as a person if you know yourself.

[Lionx]

If the media is pumping that up then could we know the real statistics..? I am curious. Although i do have to say some of the rap that is made does portray that stereotype.

[lordblazer]

If the media is pumping that up then could we know the real statistics..? I am curious. Although i do have to say some of the rap that is made does portray that stereotype.

dude I'm talking nation wide in a sense locally in southern cali that is a true statistic but do oyu know if its nationwide or not?

I'm not trying to make oyu look like an arse you always have something to argue. Whose aruging not me. I agree with you like most of the time and I add some more points to it.


Rap isn't just a thing black people do.Theres a rap genere and every country and the only form of rap that potray's gangsters is gangster rap.
It would be nice if you knew a bit more of a genre before saying a in general statement.

Rap is like Rock its split into several different genres yet its all still rock.

Rap isn't just

I be walkingz up da street blahb lahb alh. ...

Most gangster rap that talks aobu thow they be dealin' is created to make money. Most rap listeners of gangster rap doesn't even listen to the lyrics. They can say them but really they like the beat.Yeah lol.

[Buster Sword Strike]

Uh no i think i wasnt being clear, i was responding to this:

I'm asking you not to bash anyone. This thread is about racism, so bash the racists and not the races.

Sorry about that.

What bipper says is true, in this city in Cali there are more crimes commited by black people more than any other race somehow, and people are like >_> <_< >_> <_< alot when you see a black guy. It happens to me too and its not totally unjustified, and it does take some time to adjust and know that not every black guy will shoot you. Happens, took me a while too.

I understand that, it's not a problem. But I fear white people the same here in Canada because quite a few are worse. I'm white btw. Most of our white gangs are worse here.

[Lionx]

I'm not trying to make oyu look like an arse you always have something to argue. Whose aruging not me. I agree with you like most of the time and I add some more points to it.

Dude.... i dont really argue, this is a discussion, i just wanted to see some facts as to where you got the information you are saying here. Its just a request to see some statistics to look further into this subject. How is that arguing?

What i mean is that whether or not the stereotype is true, rap does in general help fuel that stereotype at least to me.

[lordblazer]

Hold on how are oyu asking me statistics on stuff you told me? You said more blacks do crimes in southern cali and oyu want me to provide the facts?

[Lionx]

Heres the thing though... The media pumps everyone up on fearingthe black male. They only report the violent crimes of black males and the sex crimes white males and the serial killers white males. Man there are a lot of petty white thugs and a lot of black seriel killers out there.
That my firend is propaganda lol.

I just wanted to see some research on that is all >_>; Thats all i asked.

[bipper]

Yeah,

It would be nice if you knew a bit more of a genre before saying a in general statement.

weird; look at the post above. I was trying to protect your views withmy arguement above. Like I said origionally - Sterotyping and racism are very much alike; A fine line exsists between them. I did not feel that you stepped over this line. I could not tell if your words were fueled by a small fact, or hate - so I guess that is left up for interpetation.

What linox essentially wants, is some statistical informatin. Like instead of saying taht I think its media potraying blacks as the majority of crime makers (or what not) - the words I think state and opinion. Facts always help your case better than opinionated information. I happend to see more white villans in movies, and on shows - so that negates your argument there. (I did not rip this word from word from the posts abouve - I appologize in advance if I took somthing out of context. Bottom line opnion < fact)

Bipper

[Christmas]

Even as a same race, coexistent and living in harmony is hard as some among the race think they are superior than the others.

But it all start within yourself, as long as you dun discriminate the other race, the world will have one less person that is racist and the condemned race had one less reason to feel condemned.