Plot Theories

[Future Esthar]

I never said that Ellone planted the memories,Skyblade.
I will explain step by step and in chronological order.

1-They LOOSE the memories.

2-Ellone send them back to their childhood(it probably was when they sleep at Zell´s house).

3-The dream was stored on their memories.
Also,since it was a normal sleep they didn´t pay much attention to the dream.

4-At Trabia Garden Irvine told them about his childhood.

5-Then they realized the dreams were real.But they don´t remember it being a dream.You know,realizing that the pictures were real made them mistake it with the memories they had before using GF.But the memories were about real thngs since it is a memory of a dream about real things.

So there is no implantations.
Or are you saying that in the world of FF8 people forgot about their dreams?It is obviously false.

Note:Squall had the dreams before going to Zell´s house.This is saw on the game.

[Skyblade]

I never said that Ellone planted the memories,Skyblade.
I will explain step by step and in chronological order.

1-They LOSE the memories.

2-Ellone sends them back to their childhood (it probably was when they slept at Zell´s house).

3-The dream was stored on their memories.
Also, since it was a normal sleep they didn´t pay much attention to the dream.

4-At Trabia Garden Irvine told them about his childhood.

5-Then they realized the dreams were real. But they don´t remember it being a dream. You know, realizing that the pictures were real made them mistake it with the memories they had before using GF. But the memories were about real things since it is a memory of a dream about real things.

So there is no implantations.
Or are you saying that in the world of FF8 people forgot about their dreams? It is obviously false.

Note: Squall had the dreams before going to Zell´s house. This is seen in the game.

One day, Future Esthar, I'm going to enroll you in an English class and teach you to spell properly, and use proper grammar.

Ok, you're right, I misunderstood. But nothing indicates that Ellone can send someone back into their own past...

[Christmas]

Ellone: Squall, I can't. I don't know Rinoa. I told you I can only send people I know in the present into people I knew in the past.

So it might be possible since she know Squall in the past.

Squall had the dreams before going to Zell´s house. This is seen in the game.

For the whole game whenever Squall had dreams related to Ellone is definitely about Laguna.(with the exception of another events which happened after Squall met Ellone in space.)

Ellone: Of course! You were my eyes. Thanks to you guys, I was able to
see how much I was loved. I couldn't change the past but just seeing it
was more than enough. Thank you so much.

This indicate Ellone wanted to change the past regarding about Laguna. There is hardly any possiblity that it is Ellone uses her powers all of a sudden to take Squall back to his own past while she had been taking him to Laguna's past all along.

Ellone: You can't change the past. I just found that out. When I was
kidnapped, Uncle Laguna went on a journey to find me... But because he
did, Uncle Laguna wasn't able to be by Raine's side when she died.
Raine wanted to show Laguna her new born baby... Raine kept calling out
for Laguna. So no matter what, I wanted Laguna to stay in the village...
But it didn't work. I can no longer make it back to that moment...

This indicate that she mean by "changing the past" mean having Laguna to see his newborn baby nor does it had any relationship with Squall's childhood.

It doesn't make any sense if she just send Squall to his past then to Laguna's past again. Why would she do that in between the events of Laguna's dreamworld?

[Future Esthar]

Not again.I had already it on the "preparatory" and "secondary" school allways with bad classifications.But what I really hate was French.

What if Elle also wanna to send them back to see their childhood?
You know,Elle need to leave the orphanage which makes her sad.
So she feels nostalgic and wanna to see her past again.
She wanna to relive the bond and friendship between them.

Just a question.How many years passed since Raine died up to Squall´s present time?

[BG-57]

Not again.I had already it on the "preparatory" and "secondary" school allways with bad classifications.But what I really hate was French.

The point is that the way you express your ideas makes it hard for us to understand them. Note that we have to ask a lot of redirected questions to clarify your theories.

What if Elle also wanna to send them back to see their childhood?
You know,Elle need to leave the orphanage which makes her sad.
So she feels nostalgic and wanna to see her past again.
She wanna to relive the bond and friendship between them.

Usually when Ellone manifests her powers people drop to the ground in a daze though.

Let's just say that it's possible but not likely.

Just a question.How many years passed since Raine died up to Squall´s present time?

Can't be more than 17 years, which is Squall's age.

[Christmas]

What if Elle also wanna to send them back to see their childhood?
You know,Elle need to leave the orphanage which makes her sad.
So she feels nostalgic and wanna to see her past again.
She wanna to relive the bond and friendship between them.

Then why didn't she just send Squall straight to his own past instead of Laguna's past. Why did she first send Squall to Laguna's past then to his own past then back to Laguna's past. This doesn't make sense. Why will she suddenly do something that is totally unrelated to what she had been doing all along?

And note that Ellone never mention that she send Squall to his own past instead she only sent Squall to Laguna's past. If she did does it, why didn't she admit it? Pls dun come with your Adel or other weird theories.

Your "what if" is as good as what if Ultimecia is in love with Squall and just wanted to get close to him.

And I told you in my previous post why she wanted to change the past and the "past" she is concerned about is Laguna's past and not Squall's past.

[Future Esthar]

Then why didn't she just send Squall straight to his own past instead of Laguna's past. Why did she first send Squall to Laguna's past then to his own past then back to Laguna's past. This doesn't make sense. Why will she suddenly do something that is totally unrelated to what she had been doing all along?

Why not?Is it impossible?

And note that Ellone never mention that she send Squall to his own past instead she only sent Squall to Laguna's past. If she did does it, why didn't she admit it? Pls dun come with your Adel or other weird theories.

It was a secret from Elle.Can´t a girl had her own secrets?

[Christmas]

Ya, so what if Ultimecia litttle secret is that she is in love with Squall and is jealous is valid too.

And since it is Ellone's secret, how come you know?

You are jumping to the conclusions of each time someone had a dream or flashbacks in the game is done by Ellone unless you had something decent to support it.

[SrBehemoth]

:mog:I have a few theories to build on what you have already said. We all know that junctioning makes you forget things, whether you lose the memories, or the connection for the brain to access the memory becomes severed. We also know that this is caused by the GF taking up residence in your head. Many of you however, just assumed that GF's just change into a noncorporeal form when they are not in their corporeal form, but i like the idea that they instead come from a place somewhat akin to the land of summoned monsters as in previous titles. I know this seems like a kinda weird theory but i can back it up and tie it all together. instead of the GF taking residence in your mind, it instead utilizes your memories to make a door to their world, however the memoroies are used up in the process, which wud explain y the longer a gf is junctioned the more memories you lose. but what about GF's like the brothers, ifrit, or bahamut that are just wondering the world. I think that each of these GF's had a synthetic door. for the Brothers it was the temple that was the door, for ifrit it was the fire cavern, etc. This theory also explains diablo and Doomtrain. For diablo the lamp was just a door, and for doomtrain, you have to collect the items to make a door for it. I agree with the other ideas that all other GF's are just junctioned to the monsters from which you draw them. about the memory theory of them seeing their childhood, the reason that irvine might have brought up the memories to remind everyone, is because he wasnt from the balamb garden and therefore may not have used GF's b4 joining the party.he therefore would have the least memories lost and might still have/have access to those memories. about those of you that keep putting down this theory with such evidence as: they knew how they felt in the memory how cud that be if they just watched it happn? to forget an event, u need only forget the experiences of 4/6 of yur senses. to remember sumthing u need to know how it looked, tasted, felt, smelled, sounded like, or how it made you feel. a sense is technically a way of translating what is around us so the brain can make a decision regarding the best course of action. usually when listing senses, ppl only list the ones that we observe with. The 6th sense is emotion and it is the most important sense, it allows us to interpret what is observed and then we make our decision based on how we feel. so mebe the GF's only use the observational memories to make their doors, and when irvine(/ellone according to future E) reminded the party of the observational memories they still had the translational memories associated with them. Neways thats all i got, sorry for the long post:mog:

[Sir Bahamut]

Interesting theory, but I think it's more likely that the GF's are stored in the characters mind as electric impulses, thus taking up space otherwise filled with memories.

Why? Because GF's can be stored in computers! Remember Shiva and Quetzacotl? They were stored in a computer. Since files stored in a computer are essentially electrical impulses in circuits, it seems likely that GF's are stored in the human mind in the same way. That's at least a lot simpler than an alternate world as you suggest!

[Leeza]

This thread is a littel old to be revived.