Lunar Cry (no theory)

[Sir Bahamut]

The Lunar Cry:

As has been mentioned, all monsters from FF8 originate from the moon. They all live there really. Don't ask why, that's just how it is.

Now, at regular intervals, as has also been mentioned, the monsters fall down to earth(probably because there are too many on the moon, or because of the Crystal Pilla, explained later) in what is called the "Lunar Cry"(the meaning of the name being obvious).

The Crystal Pillar is a big stone from the moon, which made it's way to earth somehow. This Crystal Pillar reacts with the moon, and can trigger the Lunar Cry(whether this is the only reason the Lunar Cry happens is unknown to me; we might get Ultimania information soon though) artificially. The Lunatic Pandora is the vessel which was created to contain the Crystal Pillar, so it could be studied(it was probably thought it could be used for potential warfare too though). The Lunatic Pandora floats due to a reaction between the Crystal Pillar and the Lunatic Pandora itself.

Now, Tears Point has been discovered to be the location on earth which harbours the greatest natural 'attraction' to the moon. In other words, if you want to use the Crystal Pillar to trigger a Lunar Cry, your best bet is to position the Lunatic Pandora over Tears Point.

Now, for the Lunar Cry we see during the game, there are some oddities about it(why the monsters didn't burn up in the atmosphere, why they suddenly spread out to form a sheet, and how they survived the 'fall' to begin with) but these are all aspects which are merely explained by the fact that this is a game.

2-The monsters weren´t supposed to fall on Esthar? But we see them at some point falling on the direction of Galbadia.At this point the Galbadia continent is seen covering the face of the globe we see which means that the Esthar continent was on the other side.

This is not true. We never 'see' where they are going to land. We only know they fall at Esthar because that's where Tears Point, and the Crystal Pillar, is.

http://www.ffshrine.org/ff8/ff8_fmvshots.php

Find a screenshot in there which backs up your claim. I dare you. Maybe this is what you're talking about:

http://www.ffshrine.org/ff8/fmvshots...unar/00020.jpg

But please, we cannot see what part of the earth that is. All we see is clouds and water.

3-At some point the flood of monsters become very bright.Before this we saw some set of monsters.However after the bright the set was different.Really,I downloaded the FMV and saw it carefully.
I think one of the sets were the monsters already on Esthar and the other the monsters that appear later.

Bull****. Go to the link above and point to this change in brightness. Better yet, find the appropriate video here:

http://bluelaguna.net/movies/ff8/fmvs.php

and tell us exactly where, and in what video this happens.

4-Is it me or in the end of the FMV we saw the floor breaking on pieces due to the impact?The break generates rivers and all that.Maybe it was just the shade of the monsters who falls on separate balls.
But that IS strange because there were no changes when they went to Earth.

Floor breaking on impact? Please, what on earth are you talking about? Again, please refer to the pictures of the FMVs linked to.

5-There was another FMV in wich we see the monsters falling inside the Pandora.How did they overpass the roof?It seems as if they were falling on water.

As mentioned, the Lunatic Pandora has a forcefield.

[Megalixir]

so what is PuPu's relation with the lunar cry, if any?

[Sir Bahamut]

He has no relation to the Lunar Cry at all. He is just an alien from some other strange planet =P

[BackRoomKid]

that bright light, ha....i am convinced (just by my own reasoning) that it's Adel's tomb

but, there are no rules to these kinda things, so i think that'd be funny if PuPu was caught in the Lunar Cry and fell down to earth with the monsters, poor guy, he does look a bit dazed

[G SpOtZ]

here's my poorly backed up and insanely false theory:

*enters future esthar mode*

I believe that FFVIII is related to FFVII. In FFVII they talked about the ancients travelling from planet to planet, or something like that. Well the "moon" in FFVIII wasn't actually a moon. it was a planet, of the ancients. yes. the ancients were actually monsters. their planet was roaming around in space then decided to get caught into earth's gravitational field, so it could orbit around like a moon and be disguised. Now these monsters, these ancients, they decided to stay at first a long time because it was a nice place, and the place where to "cool" ancients/monsters hung out was at the islands of heaven and hell...
well anyway, ancients from ffvii were supposedly supposed to travel to a planet, settle, and move on. This ffviii world is simply far into the future of the ffvii world, and the whole "last remaining ancients" thing is all bs. they were lying. yes that must be it, it's the only explaination.
so in the future from ffvii, they find the ffviii world. they're like hey, this is a pretty insane world. lets freak em all out by beaming ourselves down to the planet!


and THATS where baby's come from!

[BackRoomKid]

^^^uh huuuuuh

then Aeris's mom is a monster? or is that a lie too?

redxiii, that makes a bit more sense, he's more of a beast then a monster though

[Megalixir]

that bright light, ha....i am convinced (just by my own reasoning) that it's Adel's tomb

definately.

[Big D]

Now, for the Lunar Cry we see during the game, there are some oddities about it(why the monsters didn't burn up in the atmosphere, why they suddenly spread out to form a sheet, and how they survived the 'fall' to begin with) but these are all aspects which are merely explained by the fact that this is a game.

Nah, the answer's simple: the Crystal Pillar, when it's 'activated' by being in a particular point, establishes a strong energy field - we know this for a fact, because it directly triggers the Lunar Cry. A huge amount of gravity manipulation would be required in order to mess around with the monsters like that, but there'd have to be other factors involved to prevent the monsters dying from exposure to space, atmospheric re-entry or from the fall. So, I figure it's something like this: The Crystal Pillar's energy field is basically an annular force field that creates an enclosed 'corridor' between the planet and the moon. This corridor has less gravity than the moon or the planet itself, but there's enough of a force to draw the monsters toward the planet, along with a sufficient amount of the moon's atmosphere to keep the monsters alive. They're protected from space, from re-entry and from terminal velocity - problem solved.

[BackRoomKid]

^^^physics honors ey?

makes sense though, notice the monsters are all red to begin with...kinda reminds me of how a meteor or ANYTHING for that matter gets "red" cuz of the heat it gathers up when entering earth's atmosphere

but the lunatic pandora has sum kind of protection to prevent these monsters from "over heating" so-to-speak and has a grativational manipulation

[Christmas]

1-There is this spot on Obel Lake in which we talk with the shadow.
Looking to it from Space we see it as an inlet on the middle of Obel Lake.It is surrounded by water.
2-The monsters weren´t supposed to fall on Esthar? But we see them at some point falling on the direction of Galbadia.At this point the Galbadia continent is seen covering the face of the globe we see which means that the Esthar continent was on the other side.

Incredible...You can see an inlet of Obel lake from outer space? So you assume it is falling towards the Galbadia Continent?

I have one very good explaination to this. The monster fall to the place where initiate the Lunar Cry so you know where it is. Since the place is pretty near the sea, you might have mistook it for Obel lake. But if you are pretty sure that with your super observant eyes that it is 100% it's Obel lake, then you still can't change the fact that it fall in Esthar and not Galbadia.

And I know how your eyes really works seem you can see Ellone's doubling image as Rinoa, I guess you can also see anything in the FF VIII world from outer space.

For instance the Esthar sky became red for too long which is impossible.

My FF VII have a image of Meteor up in the sky for centuries and it still haven't crashed onto the planet.

[Future Esthar]

I am good at recognizing lands.
This is Obel Lake,not Esthar.
The land spot on the lake appears as an island from Space.
Point 1 and 2 weren´t related.Why you relate it?
And no,somewhere on the FMV we can see nearly the entire continent.
But it´s interesting that you misunderstood it with Esthar.

To Sir Bahamut-It´s the FMV in which we see the moon,the planet and the monsters falling to it.
And no,it´s not that picture.But the FMV I am talking contains it.
The part in which the floor is broken is at the end.
The part about Obel Lake is at the beggining.

[Christmas]

Why dun you post a screenshot of the FMV you are talking about?

[Squall of SeeD]

Now, for the Lunar Cry we see during the game, there are some oddities about it(why the monsters didn't burn up in the atmosphere, why they suddenly spread out to form a sheet, and how they survived the 'fall' to begin with) but these are all aspects which are merely explained by the fact that this is a game.

Nah, the answer's simple: the Crystal Pillar, when it's 'activated' by being in a particular point, establishes a strong energy field - we know this for a fact, because it directly triggers the Lunar Cry. A huge amount of gravity manipulation would be required in order to mess around with the monsters like that, but there'd have to be other factors involved to prevent the monsters dying from exposure to space, atmospheric re-entry or from the fall. So, I figure it's something like this: The Crystal Pillar's energy field is basically an annular force field that creates an enclosed 'corridor' between the planet and the moon. This corridor has less gravity than the moon or the planet itself, but there's enough of a force to draw the monsters toward the planet, along with a sufficient amount of the moon's atmosphere to keep the monsters alive. They're protected from space, from re-entry and from terminal velocity - problem solved.

To add to this, remember that Lunar Cries normally just smack into the ground. This wasn't a normal Lunar Cry, however. It was artificially initiated by the Lunatic Pandora's presence over Tears' Point.

Obviously, the Lunar Cry was heading straight toward the Crystal Pillar in this situation. Even more obviously, allowing them to impact with the facility wouldn't be a good thing. Using the Crystal Pillar's gravity manipulation, the Lunar Cry was simply dispersed in the sky, while still allowing Adel's Tomb to descend and enter.

[Sir Bahamut]

Exactly. Future, I linked to all the FF8 FMVs, both in video format and in picture format. Please tell us which FMV it is on that site, and link to the picture for the specific scene you refer to.

[Future Esthar]

This is the picture of Obel Lake from space.



This is the picture of Galbadia from space.I recognize it because I see the Dollet region on the middle.You are right,this was the picture you showed me.



This is when the set of monsters start to get bright.
Before this the monsters are like this:



Here we can easily identify that bluey tranparent monster we fight on Esthar (before LC) and that poney type monster we fight on Trabia.

After the bright the monsters are like this:



Here we see that demon gremlin like monster we fight on Esthar (after Lunar Cry).

And finally:



The part in which we see the floor breaking due to the impact.