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    Quote Originally Posted by GLR
    Most people I know wouldn't buy the games anyways, they don't have the money for that.
    So you take it in one form or another for free. Thats pretty much stealing. Which is fine among the average person as long as you're not trying to justify it or call it something else.

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    Nope, its piracy. Stealing would be going into a store, taking a game from the shelf and running away with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLR
    Nope, its piracy. Stealing would be going into a store, taking a game from the shelf and running away with it.
    lol exactlly

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLR
    Nope, its piracy. Stealing would be going into a store, taking a game from the shelf and running away with it.
    pfft, same difference.

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    There is a technical difference. Pirating means you are stealing the intellectual property. When you download a game, the copyright matirial of the game is transfered from one medium to another. Thus justifying it as not stealing, but pirating.

    Stealing = physical propertyl; pirating (leagal sense) intelectual property.

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    You wouldn't steal a TV, you wouldn't steal a CAR, you wouldn't steal a FILM.

    Would you steal A GAME?

    PIRACY.

    IS.

    STEALING.

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    I'm not triing to say that piracy isn't against the law or whatewer. I, too preffer to get the original of a game when possible. But there is a big difference between piracy and stealing:

    When you steal a car, it means that you take it away from someone else. The one you stole it from won't have a car anymore.

    When you download a game, you get a copy of the file. Both you and the original owner will still have the game. The argument that you are stealing the money the company would make is also tentative, as you can't steal something they don't have yet.

    The harm done from piracy isn't that big anyways. I'm sure that the companys are still making more than enough money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLR
    The harm done from piracy isn't that big anyways. I'm sure that the companys are still making more than enough money.
    Yawn. *unenthusiastic*

    If everyone thought the same way and all pirated their games the companies wouldn't have "more than enough" money.

    The harm done from Piracy is huge. Even if it wasn't, what you do to somebody elses property isn't about what you think the harm is, it's about what they think.

    "Piracy isn't stealing" what kind of stupid [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] is that? Even if it were true (which it isn't) Would you still run around with the ethos;

    "Molesting isn't killing so I guess it's OK. LOL."?

    Piracy is stealing because you are taking a product (a copy) and using it as a seperate product without paying for it.

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    One thing i do wonder is...is burning an extra copy of a game for backup or letting someone have a burned CD considered stealing?

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    Yes in new games it is included in teh End user license agreement. You know, the agreement you agree to before buying the game so have no idea what you are agreeing to, yet it holds up find in a federal court of law!?

    As you can see yes, they say that you cannot manipulate the intelectual properties through any non standard use. This includes backing up - DVD's use this too.

    I hate it, but thats the way it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lionx
    One thing i do wonder is...is burning an extra copy of a game for backup or letting someone have a burned CD considered stealing?
    Back up, as long as that is what it stays, legal.

    Giving it to someone else, illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage
    Quote Originally Posted by ThroneofDravaris
    The highlight of my life is when I downloaded all 4 550 MB disks of FF7:PC on dial up. No one can take that away from me…
    ...what.
    FF7PC is 4 CDs, and they're not even full. Even if they were full, it'd be 700MB*4, which is 2800MB.
    Yes...thus 4 disks of 550 mb in size...

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    Well, it depends.

    Are the companies still able to make money off of these games?
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    piracy is all over bad. though being a prole man i have a hard time arguing against it.

    i think companies need to make an effort to persuade people not to do it. mgs did. hl2 did it. bonus content from codes and stuff on the pack are good ideas.

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    Its wrong, but I do it. If someone thinks that I should stop, okay, thanks for telling me.

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