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There were no civilians? What on earth kind of tripe is that? There are always non-belligerents, total war or not & Geneva protects them. That is the most preposterous thing I think I've heard here, and most dangerous. If there are no civilians why on earth did the Nuremberg Trials take place? Think before you type, it works better that way.
If you believe for one minute that generals and commanders do not condone the killing of innocents then you are very naive. It's been done here in Northern Ireland, in Vietnam, in British controlled interests throughout the world. Everywhere, and it is rarely brought to account.
Furthermore, don't accuse me of having screwed up morals you twisted little man, it isn't me saying there 'are no civilians' during total war. Many times, and I'm sure you will deny this in your own blinkered little way, places are obliterated to 'break the will to oppose' by deliberately targeting civilians, where do you think these lost & warped 'terrorists' got the idea? WWII was a hell I hope we never see again & civilians were nothing to either side. Both committed massive attacks directed solely to obliterate them in an effort to 'break the will' and both failed, bar the atomic attacks. Your blind faith that your country is always right is equal to the blind faith that these people have that they're going to paradise with 20 virgins.
To quote you mis-quoting me, no I’m not equating 'ramming a plane into a building with thousands of innocents is morally equivalent to accidentally hitting a civilian while carrying out an air raid on people who are engaged in war with your country'. Those words never left my keyboard. I am, however, equating ramming a plane into a building with thousands of innocents to dropping bombs from a plane or launching missiles from 1,000 miles away onto a city full of thousands of innocents.
Don't put words into my mouth, nothing you say deserves that quote, you twisted little man, it isn't me saying there 'are no civilians' during total war. Many times, and I'm sure you will deny this in your own blinkered little way, places are obliterated to 'break the will to oppose' by deliberately targeting civilians, where do you think these lost & warped 'terrorists' got the idea? WWII was a hell I hope we never see again & civilians were nothing to either side. Both committed massive attacks directed solely to obliterate them in an effort to 'break the will' and both failed, bar the atomic attacks. Your blind faith that your country is always right is equal to the blind faith that these people have that they're going to paradise with 20 virgins.
And lastly, no I’m not equating 'ramming a plane into a building with thousands of innocents is morally equivalent to accidentally hitting a civilian while carrying out an air raid on people who are engaged in war with your country'. Those words never left my keyboard. I am, however, equating ramming a plane into a building with thousands of innocents to dropping bombs from a plane or launching missiles from 1,000 miles away onto a city full of thousands of innocents.
Don't put words into my mouth; nothing you say deserves that quote.
Last edited by Cuchulainn; 09-12-2005 at 05:29 PM.
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