Avril Lavigne topic!

[TheAbominatrix]

The lack of hostility in this thread is disapointing...

She did 'write' many of her songs, but most are, as she admitted, written with the help of a lyricist. Nothing wrong with that, of course, I just wanted to point it out.

Nothing wrong with that? Oh pish posh!

Given the amount of artists that do so, it isnt that big a deal, no. It's not like I respect Avril's 'talent' or anything, so why would I care if she needs help to write the schlock she does?

[Channing]

I believe being a girl and trying to act hard and punky is a total turnoff. Especially when it's fake to the max. I don't find her very appealing. (:

[Sephex]

I think I still have that article saved if no one posted it yet...

Here it is: *link*

Good read. This is also why I never listen to the radio. Most artists on the radio have sor tof agenda like Avril's, as the author pointed out many times.

[Leene]

i like Avril Lavigne

[Cloud No.9]

can't sing, can't write, can't do very much musically at all. can't ven thinly viel herself as anything other than pop. it's worse here in britain were we also get busted and mcfly beign "punk".

back in my day.......... punk meant the sex pistols. god save the queen and anarchy in the uk now it seems to mean wearing baggy jeans and holiding a guitar.

[Levian]

- To the pathetic, 11-13 year old Cult of Avril I'm-so-punk-because-I-shop -at-Hot-Topic-and-listen-to- Avril-and-like-sk8er-boiz members: Welcome to the real world. Not everyone is going to like everything that you like. Please get over it.

I suspect I don't need to point out the inherent flaw in this?

But I don't need to dissect the rest of the article. I don't give two tiny molecules of fecal matter about the musician behind the music unless I really dig the music. Mostly I just listen to the music, or I don't. I couldn't care less if it's Kelly Clarkson or Darkthrone, so long as I like the music itself.

And I like some of Avril's stuff. Yeah, her lyrics aren't exactly the deepest and most moving around, yeah, there's plenty of stuff a lot better out there, but I can still sit and listen to her happily enough.

Thank you. I agree with you. Couldn't have said it better myself. As long as the music sounds good, I couldn't care less about the person singing it. And Avril's voice is actually rather nice to listen to, when she doesn't sing live.

[ThroneofDravaris]

Kill Bill soundtrack owns Avril lavigne

[Rusty]

I don't like her music or 'I'm so punk' attitude either. Nor can she sing. In my opinion.

[Madame Adequate]

Kill Bill soundtrack owns Avril lavigne

Thus the only thing every worth listening to is the single best track - or even the single best chord - ever.

[Aphelion]

All I know about her is that she's on Brazil, and she'll sing in various cities here. Yeah, I guess that's all I know about her.

[Mr. Graves]

I think I still have that article saved if no one posted it yet...

Here it is: *link*

I posted that back in early '03, back in the day

She sucks. Very untalented, and yes, has no substance at all.

[Cloud No.9]

punk used to be good........... then americans found out.

[Jack]

I, personally, dont like her. I'm really not a big fan of that sort of pop anyway, and her "Im so punk" attitude is quite annoying. Hell, it'd annoy me from someone who was actually punk went on and on about it (and yes, she does).

She did 'write' many of her songs, but most are, as she admitted, written with the help of a lyricist. Nothing wrong with that, of course, I just wanted to point it out.

She seems like a style over substance artist to me. What I have heard of her stuff (and the lyrics I've read) just seem like over-processed tripe to me, but I feel that way about 90% of today's music regardless.

The same, and thank you for being VERY tactful TheAbominatrix.

[Lindy]

punk used to be good........... then americans found out.

You know, I don't even know why you're going on about "the good old days of punk", since you weren't even BORN then, you're younger than I am for christ's sake.

And there are more than enough good american punk bands, more than there are and were English in fact, if you just took the time to look and listen maybe.

[TheAbominatrix]

No prob, Jack <3

And Cloud, I wouldnt whine about what 'Americans' did to punk considering the large amount and influence of American punk bands, and the fact that there's still a heavy scene in many parts of America.

Not to mention that Avril isnt at all punk, so that has no bearing on this discussion.